Democratic Nomination Thread

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    here's a surprise. ny too close to call as the polls close. hillary was supposed to crush ny
     
  2. NYJalltheway

    NYJalltheway Well-Known Member

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    Great fuckin job New York.

    Trump, AND Hillary?

    Jfc.
     
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  3. Cidusii

    Cidusii Well-Known Member

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    Apparently a bunch of voters disappeared from voter rolls? :S Something like 60k in Brooklyn. It'll be interesting to see how that unfolds.
     
  4. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    Two snoozefests.

    Trump (who won't take NY in a general election) romped over a pair of NY deadbeats in Ted Cruz and milquetoast John Kasich.

    Bernie with a brief early challenge up until the Fulton Fish Market, Meatpacking District and Gowanus Canal returns came in.
     
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    deathstar Well-Known Member

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    Thankfully she did.

    Can this Bernie thing end?
     
  6. Cidusii

    Cidusii Well-Known Member

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    Roughly 240 pledged delegate difference with 1400 available delegates remaining. It'd take a run of 70-30 wins to really have any hope, and that includes Philly/Cali, which aren't likely to wide margins, let alone favour Bernie at this point.
     
  7. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Double-digit lead wasn't enough for ya?
     
  8. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    When they said it was too close to call I assumed it would be closer than that.
     
  9. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    You use the word "thing" to dismissively scoff at a candidacy?

    Curly Haugland meets George Clooney and the beautiful people.
     
  10. KingRoach

    KingRoach Well-Known Member

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    No. This Bernie "thing" will not end.

    The Republican convention comes first. If Hillary doesn't get all the delegates, Bernie has a strong argument for the nomination. He has a 10 pt lead over Hillary across the board vs any Republican candidate. If the Republicans pick Kasich (the only one beating Hillary in the polls) then the Dems might want to pick the candidate with the best chance of winning.
     
  11. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    If Hillary has the nomination without half the super delegates there isn't going to be a contest at the convention. If she needs more than that to get over the top there might be a contest. Right now it looks like she'll beat the total she needs by a fairly wide margin.

    She needs 2,026 pledged delegates, not counting the super delegates to win the nomination with just half the supers in her column. She has 1,428 now to Sanders 1,151.

    The only way she loses the nomination if half the supers would put her over is if damaging leaks from the FBI show up, making the party nervous that she's too damaged to win a general election. Then Sanders could win as the supers flooded his way, minus the hardcore Clinton supers.
     
  12. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    The Bernie thing is over. He has no chance. Time to move on for the Bernie Brocialists.

    You get Hillary, Trumpertantrum or Gary Johnson (L) to choose from come November. Choose your poison.
     
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  13. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Elizabeth Warren is in attack dog mode. I don't think she's going to be the VP choice, due to regional issues, however she would be a bridge to Sanders supporters.
     
  14. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    the bernie thing is over. he doesn't stand a chance anymore.

    Also- I know we are living in some crazy times but I still can't follow the argument that the Socialist stands a better chance in a general election vs anyone. As opposed to the moderate with name recognition, that is sweeping all the minority demographics....

    Bernie should really bow out IMO. He stands no chance and at this point he has gotten his message across and the party is taking on some of his ideals. That's a success for him. Bow out so all the people contributing $27 to his campaign can take their families out for dinner with that money instead lol
     
  15. KingRoach

    KingRoach Well-Known Member

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    Read the polls
     
  16. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The polls don't mean anything. The only poll that matters is the poll of delegates on the first ballot at the convention and Hillary is going to have about 1,000 more than Sanders on that "poll". She's going to go into the convention with about 2,200 of the 2,382 required to nominate and then she's going to pickup 500 more supers. Sanders is going to go into the convention with about 1,700 delegates and he's maybe going to get 40 or 50 supers.

    All the big states yet to come favor Hillary in a big way. She's going to increase her delegate lead among non-supers before the convention. Even if Sanders gets 51% of the vote in California, which is unlikely given the composition of the Democratic electorate there, he will only get a bit more than half the delegates there. It's not like the GOP Winner-Take-All model. It's proportional.
     
  17. KingRoach

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    Haha. That's funny. I literally lol. Polls totally don't matter bc politicians are never swayed by public opinion.

    When Bernie polls better nationally and the dems see the shit show that's going to be the Cleveland convention, the super delegates are going to have to make some tough decisions. No one wants to back a loser.
     
  18. Jedabe

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    Its so disgusting how Hilary Clinton and the BILLIONAIRES have rigged the election by doing underhanded shady shit like getting more votes than Bernie Sanders and appealing to minority voters. Viva la revolution.
     
  19. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    A lot you know. This is a Jets' forum.
     
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  20. Cidusii

    Cidusii Well-Known Member

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    It's actually 1446 vs 1205 pledged delegates right now. For some reason the AP only counted a quarter of the Washington State delegates for no reason. The wiki is more updated in that regard. Either way it's over barring something crazy happening. I'd still advocate for Bernie to stay in as an insurance policy.

    I do wonder, if the Republicans picked someone other than Trump at the convention, what crazy things could happen. Trump breaking away to create the Trump Party. A fragmented Republican side would actually allow Bernie to break away too if he really wanted, without risking a Trump presidency from his point of view. Imagine four candidates in the general election. The Trumps, the Republicans, the Democrats, and the Swedes.
     
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