Jaylon Smith, OLB, Notre Dame, was considered a top 5 overall pick before his serious knee injury. He is expected to miss the entire 2016 season, but could be back to full strength in 2017. He's a potential superstar as an edge rusher, something we really could use. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...recheck-lb-jaylon-smith-expected-to-miss-2016 Is he worth the risk, and if so, at what point would you start to consider drafting him?
I would draft him like this... http://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/jaylon-smiths-big-day.86614/#post-3438813
Didn't see that thread. ... But now, given the new info in the link I posted above, where would you first consider him? I don't think you can ever be "positive" with a serious injury like his, but if there's a good chance of a full recovery but missing 2016, would you still take him in the 1st round?
I would push the niners and trade Mo and my 4th for Anthony Davis and their 2nd. I'd then shoot for Smith with my early 2nd unless there was a huge drop in someone that I highly coveted like Floyd in which case I'd use my other 2nd round pick. If I can't trade Mo then I try and move up in the third and get him in the first few pics of the third. All of this is based on what my doctors say and how confident they are in his recovery. If they totally convince me then I'd take him on the first depending on who else is there. White and Fowler both missed their rookie years so I don't see that as a deal breaker.
Not worth it. He could have been a bust anyway even without the injuries. With them, forget it unless he drops to Day 3.
Or you could take Mo and our 3rd for Davis and their 1st... take best olb available at 7.. Paxton Lynch at 20.. and Smith with our 2nd rounder... Resign Fitzpatrick to start this year. Then next year have Petty vs Lynch. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk
Who was the last consensus top 5 that was a bust (not including qbs that were reached for)? And would they still be considered a bust if they were picked in the second round? I really don't know so I'd like to hear some names from you. Edit: the whole draft in 12&13
Greg Robinson in 2014 possibly. Verdict still out.. 2013 the first 3 picks. Especially Dion Jordan. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A using Tapatalk
We only have 6 picks and 2 of them are 7th rounders likely to be cut in TC. I'd take him in the 7th but someone will probably draft him in round 4 or 5. So you want to spend one of our 4 picks on a guy who will not see the field for an entire year and then possibly never play again. I'd pass. This team has trouble enough drafting players.
2014: Jadeveon Clowney and Greg Robinson don't look promising. 2013: Eric Fisher, Luke Joeckel, Dion Jordan, and Lane Johnson. Nuff said. 2012: RG3, Trent Richardson, Justin Blackmon are total busts. Matt Kalil isn't good. 2011: An exception, all 5 are good players. 2010: The top pick, Sam Bradford, is no longer a Ram. 2009: Jason Smith and Aaron Curry are total busts. Tyson Jackson is mediocre. Matthew Stafford is Matthew Stafford. And Sanchize! While some (but not all) of these guys wouldn't be considered total busts if they went in Round 2, they make it clear that even consensus top talents often turn out to be nothing special. Knowing that, why would I want to take a guy the pundits like when I know he has a major injury problem?
I read all the posts here, and very interesting. Not an easy decision to make if I'm a GM. I would be surprised if anyone takes him in the 1st now, but you never know. In the 2nd, he becomes more interesting, since he's a high 1st round talent when healthy. Sometimes, to win in an ultra-competitive league, you have to take chances, calculated risks. That's the way I see it anyway. I would be happy with him in the 2nd round, and thrilled if he falls to the 3rd and Mac grabs him.
. re: major injury problem it's a problem not problems like the rb that keeps being mentioned. Smith doesn't (I believe) have a history of injuries. Do ou see the Smith situation much different than White with the Bears or Fowler with the Jags? They both spent top 7 picks for their players that missed their first year.
Sorry, I'm not making myself clear enough. My problem with taking Smith early is that even if he were perfectly healthy, he still might be a bust, no matter how enamored people are with his talent. I wouldn't be willing to sacrifice a season of play and development, along with a higher future injury risk, for a player who is (though no fault of his own) an uncertainty to begin with. Of course, if he were to freefall into the middle rounds, I would change my mind about taking him.
They we're still knocked out before they could take a single snap their rookie year. With smith, we'd know what we're getting into as opposed to the other two
I guess the question of the day is "how far of a fall makes it worth it?" I believe the first 2 rounds are for starters. The 3rd and 4th are for players that can be developed into a starter in a year and 5,6,7 are for players that hopefully could become a starter someday. Based on that Smith falls into the round 3 category but imo his upside is so much higher that a typical 3rd rounder that he should get picked up in the second.
It's a tough question. If I were a GM, I would guess that another GM would pick Smith before I would consider it, like somewhere in Round 1 or 2. Someone out there has a gut feeling that Smith will be special, but I don't trust gut feelings that much.
A feeling in your gut is usually gas. Imo it's not really a question of a feeling. It's agreed that the man is a beast. If you watch the tape, he looks like an NFL pro bowler. The question is what are you willing to risk of it turns out the injury is not career ending. My 2 scenarios were a. I'd take him with Mo money (pick we get in a trade) or I'd take him in the third. I stand by both those choices.
All the busts I mentioned looked like Pro Bowlers on the tape when they played college too. Maybe I'd consider taking Smith in the third, but Mo money would have no impact in my thought process. A pick is a pick, doesn't matter where I got it from.
