Is Tennessee a new trade partner for Mo?

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  1. KingRoach

    KingRoach Well-Known Member

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    Maybe because we have 5 starters on a d line that traditionally only holds 3.

    And those "peanuts" could turn into a starter on our ol or a much needed lb.
     
  2. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    I thought one of the reasons they let Damon Harrison get away was to have the cap space to lock up Mo Wilk long term?
     
  3. KingRoach

    KingRoach Well-Known Member

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    Imo the reason they let him go is bc they could get the same player for 8m less
     
  4. HomeoftheJets

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    In all fairness, we did alright trading Keyshawn, Abraham, and Revis. Keyshawn won a SB with TB, but he probably wouldn't have if he stayed here. Abraham for Mangold was a big win. And we could have had Revis back the next year had Idzik made him an offer.
     
  5. 101GangGreen101

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    Bad timing on this one. Can't trade Mo for a nice pick because that team has to shell out a new contract as well. The draft is full of DL prospects, so they could go for a player that isn't Mo but could be Mo one day
     
  6. 101GangGreen101

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    This isn't a traditional defense.
     
  7. KingRoach

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    You're right but I still think we could get away with 4 starters on the dl.
     
  8. WhySheldonWhy?

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    Snacks' deal is so far out of whack for his position - there was no way we could match that.
     
  9. Rockinz

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    Better than loosing them in UFA market for peanut shells....

    If he walks next year we would get a 3rd round compository pick at best.
     
  10. King Koopa

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    Just pay him then....we can also franchise him again next season if needed to buy time
     
  11. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    Building through the draft is a great philosophy but you also need a good mix of vets to go along with a young team and Mo is still a young player who is just about reaching his prime.
     
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  12. Rockinz

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    I doubt we franchise him again.. It would be $18 mil +

    It's EZ to say just pay him... That will cause a ripple effect on our team and then Richardson will want the same money.. Then the Big Cat after him... I think if reports are true that he wants 60 mil guaranteed on a 90 mil deal we need to trade his ass. That's waaaay to much for any position player! Only a franchise QB should get that type of money.
     
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  13. cgrec

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    I dont think the titans will want to trade the 15th pick for mo. Rumor was that they were torn vetween tunsil and stanley. Now with all of their picks, they can move back up a few spots and still get stanley
     
  14. BamaDoc

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    If he is not refranchised or signed then your best case compensation is a 2018 third round pick. If you sign an equal number of free agents in 2017, the pick could be nothing or a 7th. Think about that for a minute. Every other team out there knows that is what we get if we do nothing. To say I want a first and a second isn't reality. We might get one of Tenn seconds and a third this year or next. Thats probably as good as it will get. Depending on which picks those are the point value may be late first. That would be a decent return unfortunately. I wish we could sign him to a number we like but that would have happened if it was going to so I think you do the best you can and move on.
     
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  15. NCJetsfan

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    That makes no sense and is not gonna happen. Mac has a value in mind for Mo and it's not what Mo wants. Mac is trying to return fiscal responsibility to the team and to get the team's salary structure in order. I'm glad he's not like you and a bunch of other posters here that just ignore the realities of that aspect of the team. Mac will never pay Mo $40-$50 million guaranteed, nor should he. Nor should he pay him over $14 million per year. Franchising him again next year would be nuts. If they couldn't trade him, they'd have to pay him something like $18.7 million for the season. Mo's demands are just gonna keep going higher as other contracts escalate. Mac's not gonna give him what he wants. He's as good as gone as soon as Mac can trade him. We'd all better hope that Mac can get a good deal for him or that a deal is already in the works. If we have to keep him and then lose him for a 3rd compensatory pick that we won't see until 2018, that's the worst possible scenario for the team.

    We have a lot of cap space next year, but that doesn't mean that Mac will suddenly be willing to overpay Mo to keep him. What it means is that the Jets will probably be very active in FA again, and if they sign a high profile FA, or enough FAs, they could potentially wind up getting NOTHING in return for Mo. The alternative would to not sign any FAs so they wouldn't lose the 3rd round compensatory pick. Either way it's a lose-lose situation.

    Mo and his agents have put the Jets in this situation. I realize that some of you don't care about the financial aspects, but you need to, as it affects what happens with the team.
    Some of you need to get over your fandom of one player and think about the overall team for a change. There are ramifications of what overpaying him would mean for the rest of the team that are more important than just Mo's impact on the field alone.
     
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  16. Ohnoit'sGeno

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    Exactly the Titans with Muhammad Wilkerson aren't winning a championship.( now if they were one player away they might do that trade).
    They aren't and with the draft loaded on the defenseline they can address this area multiple times ,and fix that defenseline once and for all.( not to mention other areas that need upgrading).

    This is why I hate the media. They keep pumping up fans expectations what they can back for Muhammad Wilkerson trade , and it's going to be hard , and almost impossible to find a suitor for his services.( tough for any team to justify signing a player to that contact, and given up picks in the process.
     
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  17. JetFanInPA

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    I'd still like to see Mo resigned, but only at the right price. Personally, I might go to about 6 years and 75 to 80mil, but I think he wants more... If that's the case, unfortunately, he probably needs to be traded; I really like him, but wouldn't give him near a Suh or Marcel Dareus contract. Resigning him would free up at least a couple million in cap space and would make the need at OLB slightly less glaring than it it is now since they would probably run more 4-man fronts with the DL they'd have, so I don't see it as being too crowded of a position

    Getting slightly off topic, it's interesting to me that they haven't filled the hole(s) at OLB yet as they've done with other positions this and last offseason. Right now it's Mauldin and... Trevor Reilly/Mike Catapano. Makes me wonder what sort of plans they have for the position. Obviously many positions could use upgrades and reinforcements, but surprised they haven't touched OLB yet.

    Tennessee with all of their picks would be a logical option now. Still think the 49ers, who have 50mil in cap room still, and the Bears are options too, but it's still somewhat hard to see someone pull the trigger on a trade
     
  18. King Koopa

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    Someone is going to give him a big contract so why not us? It's not like we're paying a big time QB and likely won't be for the foreseeable future. Why do we always strike gold in the draft then trade our players when they hit their prime? Other teams re-sign their stars but for whatever reason we can never get it done

    Obviously if he's asking for something absurd then it is what it is, but I wouldn't mind giving him a little more than what people think he's worth.

    Also, we can franchise him next year and trade him for the best offer if need be...someone will offer something at the bare minimum

    It's just frustrating that if another team could theoretically get a contract done with Mo, why can't we?
     
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  19. King Koopa

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    Richardson is one blunt away from the Josh Gordon treatment.....Williams is a second year player under contract for a while

    We don't have a franchise QB and we likely won't be paying one for atleast a few seasons....We might draft out next QB who would be under a rookie contract or Petty/Geno who won't be expensive. Even Fitzpatrick would be getting back up money basically

    My problem is if we trade Mo to a team they will come to terms before the trade...I would love to see what he gets
     
  20. Truth4U2

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    But why does it have to be one or the other? Isn't a better option to lock up someone like Wilk long-term before they become free agents? Some teams do that successfully, even proactively renegotiating or extending contracts for their star players 2 or 3 years in advance to avoid the headaches once free agency draws near.
     

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