I've come to grips with the fact that in a QB driven and quality QB deprived league that QBs will get overdrafted. And if they check as many boxes as Wentz do, they will end up going top 5. I also agree with you that he is not worth mortgaging the future. If we did this we would definitely be mortgaging the future. However, I'm not so sure the Rams did based on the youth and talent on their roster through the number of picks they racked up through various prior trades. Seems to me that if there was a team that could afford to and needed to do this, it would be them.
It's definitely gone too far. Is QB the most important position in the game? Yea. Is it anywhere near as important as people say it is? No. You give Ryan Fitzpatrick a good roster and he wins 10 games. You give Philip Rivers a mess and he gets you the 3rd overall pick. Who's the better QB? It's almost as if teams win games, not quarterbacks... It's a lot harder to build one of those when your first pick every year is on day 3 of the draft.
Drew Brees and Joe Flacco take up a crazy amount of the cap space. Those teams suck because of those contracts.
If Wentz or Goff is any good early, the Rams can have a 3-5 years run of being in contention with their QB being on the cheap. The Seahawks and 49ers had this. It looks like the Jags, Raiders and maybe Vikings are on their way there.
The Seahawks and 49ers also had ridiculous rosters. Seattle got guys like Richard Sherman and Kam Chancellor in the 5th rounds. Go check out their 2010 and on draft classes, and especially what rounds their stars were picked in. The 49ers were comparable on defense and had a great offensive line. The Rams current roster is a joke compared to those 2 teams during those runs. And it won't be improving without any day 1 or 2 draft picks. And neither the 49ers nor the Seahawks made a massive trade up for their guy. Kaep was a 2nd rounder, Wilson a 3rd. Far cry from moving up to #1 overall. SF and SEA were able to use the picks the Rams used to move up to actually help out the QB. And Wentz/Goff won't be as cheap as Wilson and Kaep, #1 overall picks still make millions of dollars on the rookie wage scale compared to only hundreds of thousands for day 2 picks. They're going to be very hard pressed to build a competitive team around this QB, let alone a consistent contender like the 2 teams you named did.
Yea, I'd rather have great pass catchers and an average QB than vice versa. NFL QBs are all serviceable enough to make plays when given elite guys getting open. Ryan Fitzpatrick just threw 31 touchdowns. Not coincidentally, 26 went to the same 2 guys.
I think the best way to settle this debate is to watch the course of both the Rams and the Titans over the next couple years. The Titans have a young, #2 overall QB and a shit ton of high draft picks to build a team around him. The Rams are about to have a young, #1 overall QB and nothing else. I'd much, much rather be a Titans fan right now.
If we are listening to the rumors - The Brown wanted Wentz at #2. The Jets were interested in trading to #1 (I assume to moved ahead of Browns for Wentz). The Browns are said to be shopping #2 now. The Jets (earlier this week) - realizing their offer fell short w/Titans and knowing that another team (St. Louis) was moving to #1, they decide to bring in Goff to see whether moving up is still viable/worth it. I see a lot written about who is the Rams target…. I think we need to view it this way - unless this is all an elaborate smoke screen, Wentz will be the #1 pick. Lynch is likely going to fall to #20 now imo.
I think we maybe nearing or at the tipping point with what happened and is happening this offseason with Brock and Fitz respectively. The Broncos and Jets have clearly said enough is enough.
The Rams have the best defensive line in football right now and more than likely the best interior pass-rusher in the league in Aaron Donald. Regardless both franchises have shitty coaches and I doubt these 2 franchises do anything major in the next 3 to 4 years.
The Rams have Gurley, a young offensive line blocking for him and a top 10 defense full of young talent. They were good enough to beat the Seahawks twice last year. To say they have nothing else is the furthest from the truth.
Agree, now that we see how much it cost the Rams to move up, I’d be upset too if this were the Jets who would have to give up even more. It’s all conjecture on my part btw, the timing (with the Goff announcement) though makes it seem like it is plausible.
Saw Wentz's under pressure numbers..... Theyre atrocious and thats at a small school Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
If the Rams found a franchise QB this is going to be the equivalent of what would have happened if the Colts traded up for Luck instead of landing him naturally. Of course the odds are 50/50 the Rams found a boobie prize instead. Amazing deal for the Titans who got a QB last year and are now poised to add a bunch of high rounders this year and next. BTW, this almost has to be for Goff. It's a marketing move as well as a QB move and the Rams are probably going to take the guy from Cal as they move into California. If they take Wentz they get half the impact with a similar quality prospect but no marketing tie-in with the homegrown California kid.
