I'm not sure on leg presses or squats but what I am sure on is Jaylon will be one of the best players in the draft if he can recover to 100%. With the health science pro athletes get I'm pretty sure he will get back to his incredible self. If we take him at 20 I would like to see us double down and take another OLB with the 3rd or 4th round. Similar to the Skins with RG3 and Cousins. You can never have enough linebackers..
ok... however, the specific nerve damage he suffered would not affect the leg press or squat. the ligament damage he suffered would not affect the leg press or squat... I'm not impressed by his leg press or squat.
Ha? What nerve or nerves did he damage? Was it from surgery or the injury? How severe? How much has regenerated? How can you know that? Again you're a weightlifter. You're not impressed with what guys can squat or leg press. Football players aren't weightlifters. Especially fluid athletes. Some are stronger than others. Some not so much. _
The report was knee nerve damage. The nerves that innervate the primary muscles of the squat - hamstrings, quads, gluteus maximus, erector spinae - are not in the knee. Yes, I lift weights, I compete in strength sports. I also work in an injury rehab center. And to my original statement about the poundage, well, as someone around weights all the time, I was simply telling you it's not that impressive when a 240 lb. man who spends half his day in a weight room squats 400 lbs.
Unless you have his medical records like King Roach, I'm not sure you have the information to make any diagnosis on what type of nerve damage he had. Was it from the injury? The surgery? To say nerve damage would not effect the strength in his legs--to do any leg exercise--is baseless. So you're not impressed with a guy at 240 squatting or leg pressing what Smith does. I'm sure you could guess that there are guys--superstar football player, who squat even less. Total weaklings. And total stiffs who squat twice what he squats. My point wasn't' that he has superhuman strength--that may be the extent of his squats and it may be MORE than other guys bigger than him--and there are likely smaller CBs that squat MORE than him. Irrelevant. It's irrelevant to how good a football player he is but it's relevant to someone who had nonconstructive ACL surgery less than 90 days ago and was the subject of wild speculation as to his ability to play football for the next year or ever. I'm sure you've met 100 football players MUCH bigger than you who can sqaut a lot less than you. Means nothing other than you're not impressed. Are you impressed with his speed and tackling ability and toughness and instincts? That's more relevant to his abilities as a football player. His ability to squat what amounts to piddling amounts to you means he's on his way back from a devastating injury. _
Will you be impressed if in another 3 months he's squatting 600 lbs? 500? 700? What if he chooses not to max out on squats and instead is going for some combo of speed and strength? _
It's not relevant to his ability to play football or an indicator of recovery. At all. I've already explained why. Goodnight.
It's an indicator that he's regaining strength in a reconstructed knee. That the nerve damage he may have suffered is abating and that possibly the nerve is regenerating. If he revealed he just started walking or jogging or had just started squatting 100 lbs, not so much. _
Squatting any weight is a good sign because it indicates the swelling is controlled or gone and he has regained decent ROM and some lower body strength. However, regardless of the weight, it's not at all indicative of how well the injury will heal and how much it will affect his sports performance because those exercises do not test the ligaments and it does not tell us anything about the nerve damage. The peroneal nerve is what was damaged. That would affect the ability to lift the foot at the ankle. It's a long recovery process ahead. Until he starts running we won't really know how well the recovery is going. Even then we won't find out how performance will be until he actually tries to play football. His ability to stop and cut without pain is what's important. Obviously stronger is better but what he can press or squat doesn't tell much at all in regards to the ligament or nerve damage. Eventually he'll perform a series of single leg hop tests, that would be a good measure of his function. Hope that clarifies things.
I had an injury to the peroneal (spelling?) because of damage incurred putting a plate and screws in my knee. It took 3 years to get "normal-ish". If his injury is anything like that....Squatting isn't the problem. Lifting his foot will be.
