There have been reports of nerve damage but in an interview with Mayock this week it seems Jaylon will make a full recovery and is already squatting 600 lbs. He would have been a top 10 pick and with Mac's strategy to draft the BPA do you think we will consider taking him at #20? He is the perfect fit for us and the injury is a bit scary but if he will make a full recovery why not roll the dice on a kid that has a MASSIVE ceiling as a OLB.
He is scheduled for a re-examine in 2 weeks. That will tell more. Very risky at 20. I don't think he is a 3-4 OLB but, if healthy, is a dynamic football player.
Of course he's going to say he'll make a full recovery! What he can squat has nothing to do with any possible nerve damage. I would take him at 20 (as I did in my mock) but I don't see Mac as a gambling man. If he was, we might have an OT on our roster who's ex was murdered a little before last years draft. Plus we're already short a pick so every one matters. That being said, if it's not a gamble and our team docs say a full recovery is likely then maybe Mac thinks he's worth the wait and a second round pick. I'd say definitely a third but he'll be long gone before our third round pick.
totally different circumstance. there was no way any g.m. could pull the trigger on him before the police cleared him. in this situation they are going to have access to all pertinent info and can make an informed decision. if the knee checks out he should be the pick.
I saw the interview at his pro day, leg pressing 600 lbs and squatting 400 lbs. Can't imagine if he had severe nerve damage he could be doing that because the original nerve damage reports were really dire. Still can't see him contributing a lot this year but if he is there at 20 and he makes a full revovery, wowza. _
It's the exact same as in it would have been a gamble. Btw the man was never accused of being involved and was from the beginning described as not a suspect. If Collins was a gamble, it was a very low risk gamble. The op said roll the dice. I took that as doctors not being 100% certain about Smith's knee in the scenario he described.
If you say so doctor. Can you tell us the extent of his nerve damage or is HIPPA preventing you from doing that. _
All 32 GMs were morons. The police said that he was not a suspect. I could see why you wouldn't risk a first rounder on him under the circumstances but by the bottom of round two someone should have rolled the dice. Cowboys won lotto on this one.
My statement has to do with the accepted treatment for people with leg injuries including acl and mcl injuries and the fact that nerve damage doesn't affect strength. Your question has to do with the current status of someone. I'm not really sure how the two are related.
I said thank you doctor. Just trying to understand how extensive the nerve damage is and WHERE it is--I thought maybe you had some inside info with his medical records. I can't imagine that nerve damage has zero impact on strength but since you said "fact" it must be true. So like when my older brother had sciatica--nerve damage, and he could barely stand, much less squat or leg press, that wasn't a "strength" issue. And when my younger brother had carpal tunnel syndrome and the nerve damge required surgery, and his arm was almost atrophied--that wasn't a "strength" issue. Got it. _
I just developed ulna collateral tendinitis in my left elbow and the ulna collateral nerve is being impinged. My left arm is not nearly as strong as my right arm, but that's not a "strength" issue. Look, I'm not a doctor but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. _
I'm no doctor, but if nerve damage is anything like a pinched nerve, it definitely affects strength. For one thing with nerve pain one is not able to come close to using one's full strength because the pain is too great and the nerve causes muscle spasms.
I wasn't trying (well, a little) to be a dick but if there was nerve damage caused by either the injury or the surgery, it's possible that the nerve has started to regenerate or maybe was not as extensive as it was originally reported. Also depends on which nerve. If the nerve damage was originally severe but is now abating and he is able to lift more and more weights and the EMG is showing solid connectivity--maybe he'll be ok. I think him being able to leg press and squat a ton of weight is tangential evidence that his nerve damage is not as bad as was originally reported OR is regenerating such that it's getting back to relative normalcy. By contrast, if he could only leg press 125 lbs and squat 100 lbs, I'd be a bit more concerned. _
Obviously. Not sure why the opposite is being argued. If you can squat and leg press an amount or MORE than you could before you damaged the nerve--it is very likely that the nerve has regenerated and could be at or near 100%. If he was squatting or leg pressing half of what he was doing before--that would be cause for concern. _
I think the amount he is leg pressing and squatting may be evidence that the nerve damage has lessened and the nerve has or is regenerating. _
