Goff's hand size is an 1/8" and 1/4" smaller than Carr and Bridgewater respectively. The only guy really bigger than him was Winston, and his hand size is 3/8" bigger. Goff is 6'4" and 21 yrs. old. He's going to get bigger. I agree with you as far as comparing him to the other guys. The drawback may be that's not as athletic as the other guys He's emerging as a top QB prospect. His grade might actually be better than some of them among the teams scouting departments also. But as far as his passing ability I think you're right
would suck to spend a 2nd round pick on a worse QB prospect than the one we got in the 4th round last year.
Petty is OK, but Cook in my opinion is a better prospect out of college. Ran the pro style offense extremely well, reads defense and has a first round arm. Made questionable decisions on and off the field. Petty is a better athlete and maybe a stronger arm, but not by much.
I think both are ok prospects. I can't justify taking one guy two rounds ahead of the other. Cook struggled when he faced the better teams on his schedule. he's NFL worthy but I think his upside is limited.
He did have a shoulder injury when MSU got their ass handed to them by Alabama. The Oregon game he was very impressive specifically. I think the two are completely different quarterbacks, so it would be interesting to see how Cook develops in the NFL, because he knows the ins and outs of the pro-style offense, takes chances down the field and can recognize 1 on 1 coverage or zone. His inconsistencies are in terms of his footwork, which isn't the most difficult thing to fix. I can see Cook under the right circumstance being a solid starter in this league, but definitely not an elite level quarterback. He's a guy you can win with for sure, not a guy that is in the way and you win in spite of his performance.
When I talk about how Goff's anticipation is unparalleled as far as college prospects go, this is what I'm talking about. Nice little slide in the pocket too.
^ that's "throwing a receiver open". My quarrel with most prospects is that they have to see a receiver open before making the throw, and in the NFL by the time you see an open receiver it's too late. To have that kind of anticipation AND the accuracy to put the ball where you need to get it is why I like Goff so much.
Nice slide, but imo a poor decision. The receiver was double covered. The defender fronting the receiver could just have easily intercepted that pass as the receiver catch it. In the NFL that probably would be an interception. Also, does he have the arm to put the ball where he wants it when it's cold and there's a brisk wind?
I think that's the kind of thing that you have to learn through trial (e.g; it won't develop on the bench). There'll be some throws in his rookie year or maybe even the first few that get picked off because the linebackers are more athletic. But he'll learn from them and understand the speed of the game and what he can and can't do as he gains experience. When you're looking at college kids you have to see things that'll eventually translate to the next level, and I think the anticipation he showed here is a good sign. As far as the velocity goes, I think he'll be fine. They clocked the top QBs at the combine and he came it at 59 mph, which was the highest and comparable to guys like Colin Kaepernick, who threw 59 at his combine workout.
I wasn't comparing Goff to Kaepernick, I was using the fact that his arm measures out as strong as his as a method of dispelling concerns about arm strength. Kaepernick is regarded as having a cannon, his arm strength was never the problem. He failed because he doesn't have anticipation, ability to go through progressions or proper pocket mechanics, all things Goff has. I don't see why you would take me comparing 1 attribute between the 2 as me comparing them as players.
I agree that is something he'll have to learn playing not sitting on the bench. I also agree that when assessing college players you have to look for skills/abilities that translate to the next level, but by the same token, one has to accurately assess whether throws a QB makes successfully at the collegiate level will work in the NFL, and how quickly a QB learns. Some never learn at all. Some learn, but it takes them a while for the light to go on. Interesting. I've only seen him play once and looked at some film clips online, but I never would have thought his velocity would be at the top.
The velocity was also surprising to me. I think it's because he typically takes some off his throws in favor of touch and accuracy, but he let it rip to dispell arm strength concerns.
I like Goff's footwork, mechanics and ability to read the defense. I don't love his arm, and am unsure if he will be able to throw down field in the NFL. The ball tends to hang in the air sometimes. People talk about Lynch's bad tape, but Goff's got his fair share too. Not saying I don't like him as a prospect, but definitely have some reservations. Would not surprise me in the least if he slides some come draft time.
