Putting your eggs in the basket of Sheldon Richardson is monumentally stupid.

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    It seems, these days, that people are quite happy with the idea of trading away a top tier talent like Mo Wilkerson and gambling on Sheldon to keep his nose clean and hoping Leonard turns into a top tier talent.

    All in the name of shrewd business practice.

    I'm sorry, but that is an idiotic idea. Leonard is still a question mark, but Sheldon is not. He's a very talented DE that, barely a week after being suspended for 4 games for weed, got arrested in one of the dumbest situations you can possibly dream up.

    And then let his team find out about it in the press.

    This is the guy we're gambling on? What the fuck?

    I'd rather the Jets cut the fat elsewhere, let Fitz disappoint a different team, and keep the guy that has been consistent, has all the things you want in a hybrid lineman, and has not squandered his professional gift with complete stupidity.

    Pay Mo. Fuck Sheldon.
     
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    The problem is not that Mo isn't talented, he is. He's just not Top 2 or 3 at the DE position and he plays in a 3-4 most of the time. He does give some flexibility to kick inside but Leo has the potential to be a very similar player (if not better).

    So now it's the case of paying Mo 15+M a year and letting a unique talent like Sheldon go next year? They Have Mo and Leo who are very similar on the field at the same time. I'd rather have the length of MO OR Leo combined with the burst of Sheldon. Mo truly is the odd man out here because of his contract demands and his similarity to Leo.

    Leo has more future potential than Mo and is affordable right now....
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Wrong. Jets run more nickel then just about any other team in the league. Mo is a very good interior pass rusher that can line up anywhere on the line. You don't play the waiting game and wait on Leonard to become that guy [IF he actually becomes that guy].

    Please name me another 300 pound lineman that racks up sacks like Mo, who is more versatile and takes on double teams like Mo? It's funny how Jet fans undervalue players like Mo when they are waiting a big pay-day. It is a complete contradiction to wait on Sheldon because eventually he will want his pay-day also. You pay the guy that has been here and has been trouble free off the field.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Wilk has far more than "some flexibility to kick inside", he can play every gap in a 3-4 and 4-3 at an extremely high level.

    Just assuming a player who has potential to be the same thing is actually going to be the same thing is a dangerous practice.

    Mo is easily worth 15m or more, and Sheldon's "unique talent" doesn't seem all that worth it to me when you take into account his run of the mill stupidity in his personal life that is undoubtedly going to affect his career and is already affecting the team.

    Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. Let me find out about it from the sports tabloids? Fuck off.
     
  5. The 1985er

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    A year ago it was debatable, now all of a sudden Mo is that much better than Sheldon? The risk is obvious with Richardson, but outside of that we wouldn't lose much, it isn't like Mo is JJ Watt. Hopefully they work something out with Mo.
     
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    I'm surprised someone with 40K posts never realize Mo was gone the moment Goodell walked to the podium and uttered these famous words: "With the 6th pick......"
     
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    I like eggs
     
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    Look at it this way.

    If Maccagnan was the GM of an expansion team and Goodell called him up and said "We're giving you Sheldon Richardson the DROY, AND we're giving you Leonard Williams, the consensus best defensive lineman and best player in the 2015 draft, AND we're giving you and extra $60M in cap space over the next 4 yrs, AND we're giving you and extra 1st or 2nd round pick in the 2016 draft, OR you can have what's behind door number 2".

    Mac would be too busy jumping up and down with joy to even ask what's behind door #2.
     
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    That answer is simple, there are not an in the league. People that don't see mo as an elite talent are silly.
     
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    I think they want to pay him but he is not letting himself get paid , im pretty sure if he wanted 11M a year 5 years ( wich is what he is worth in my opinion) it would have been done long ago. Even tho i agree that sheldon is risky we might have more leaverage then to make him sign for less , plus the roster got a lot of holes to fill so getting a pick and free up space for Mo makes sense again only because he is not giving us a hometown discount and needs to get olivier vernon kind of money while he comes from a broken leg.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I do a fantastic poached eggs with asparagus and lemon butter, with a toasted crostini drizzled in melted mozzarelle, I'll post 10 pictures of it for you in a minute.
     
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    Great, now you've spoiled the fun. We were going to have an Easter egg hunt tomorrow but now everyone knows I put them all in Sheldon Richardson's basket.

    And FYI, it wasn't monumentally stupid. That was a good hiding spot, dick.
     
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    We need a system where moderators approve threads before being posted. Complete garbage.
     
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    I've always wondered why the Jets hold on to players one year too long? The time to trade Mo was last year. Now, we keep Sheldon and pray and watch Mo walk out the door for nothing in return worthwhile.
     
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    Sounds a lot better when u dont include sheldons off the field issues
     
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    Another issue is Sheldon's future contract demands. Even if he turns it around and becomes an angel - this is the guy who was making stupid comments to the press about how much Mo should be getting paid.

    If Mo's demands are unreasonable - what do you think Sheldon is going to be looking for AFTER watching his buddy get paid?

    What kind of leader is Sheldon going to be in the locker room after his boy gets traded or walks in FA? What kind of distraction is his contract negotiations going to be?
     
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    In two years, Sheldon will either bust out of the league or play well. If he plays well, he will ask for the world in money and maybe even hold out. I don't care what "unique talents" he has, he is much less valuable than Mo.
     
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    i dont think trading mo has anything to do with sheldon richardson to be honest. even if sheldon wasnt on the team i think the smart move would be to stand firm at 12-13M or trade mo.
     
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    I don't think the Jets are gambling on Richardson at this point. I think they see him as somebody who might come through for them or might not. You can't look at him any differently than that when he's working on strike 3 in the substance abuse program and he's about to be suspended for something possibly unrelated.

    The Mo issue isn't whether the Jets should try to keep him or not. They *have* been trying to keep him for 2 years now but they haven't found common ground on a contract yet. They probably will not be able to find common ground and they're going to have to let him go one way or the other.

    Huge contracts for people who don't play the QB position are what are monumentally stupid. Big contracts are fine but $40M guaranteed and $15M+ on the cap? That's just stupid at any position other than QB and it might well be stupid at QB also.
     
  20. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You don't think two players at the same position playing at the same level would affect each other in terms of the team determining roster value?

    What?
     

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