JMBGreen, does he play for the Jets? But our fleshly production did not gain us our identity in Christ and it certainly can not gain us heaven, Christ accomplished that for us. If the works of our flesh did not contribute to getting us saved, how can the works of the flesh play a part in keeping us saved.
Hey @Petrozza -- is this dude like Christ? How does he have 10 posts in this thread but zero messages? It's like a miracle or something. Maybe we merge this into that other abortion of a religious thread? Get all the whack jobs in one barrel? _
Ok so Christ died for our sins. Then what's the deal with: - the age of reason - the Sacrament of Confession (and as a prerequisite to receiving First Holy Communion).
Don't need to see the light, because we do not owe anything to this flesh, why spend our time wallowing in the mire that caused our Savior to sacrifice himself in the first place, it will never please God. God is not looking at our production, he is not looking at our behavior in order to view us as being in favor with him.
People don't need a shepherd, because if we are trying to satisfy God’s justice on a daily basis by conforming to a standard of rules and regulations, the milk of self-righteousness will sour under the divine heat of God’s justice. We need to stop focusing on our fleshly performance and focus on our identity in Jesus Christ.
Christ died for my sins? i wish he would of asked me first, i feel like i'm being billed for something i didn't order. born into immediate debt, and the only way to pay it back is by dying. great thought process!
Just having fun with the Jets fans. But everywhere Paul went, the people who had known the law did not just reject Paul, they wanted to do away with Paul for preaching that people were not under the law. What does that tell us about those in our day who continue to hang on to the notion that God is continuing to deal with people on the basis of their performance?
We can see the connection between the religious crowd of Paul’s day and the religious crowd of today. The pride nature is the root cause of that rejection, pride insists upon attributing success to self. Human righteousness comes from self-interest-motivation, it is self-glorifying and while it may be of earthly benefit, that will not cut it when it comes to meeting the demands of God’s perfect justice.
People’s performance could not be allowed to enter the picture. God would have to use belief rather than behavior as the criterion whereby to join believers to his son. Could there have been a sin or two, or maybe a few left over when Christ died for the sin debt of the world, for which God’s justice was not satisfied, a sin in the future?
"joe, post: 3429142, member: 10735" Jesus Christ was made a curse for our sins by taking our place and suffering the judgment of God for the sin debts he died for, was his death not pictured in the scapegoat sacrifice of the Israelite program?
Richard Marx is a good song writer. Prayer was never given to change God’s perspective of our greater preference. Prayer was given to change our perspective of God’s greater purpose.
The responsibility for keeping the slate clean after salvation would be up to us. If we could do it after salvation, we could have done it before our salvation! If we are not acting saved, we did not get saved, is the idea that is being promoted. Paul did not like that is his day, we should not fall for it in ours.
I got to hang on Randy Rhodes stage monitor in my youth, guess I'm getting more mellow as time goes by. But it is amazing that religious teachers would tell people that they have got that sin, and they preach a message to make people fell guilty about the indwelling sin, and then they would give those people rules to straighten up from the sin.
