Republican Nomination Thread

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  1. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Republican turnouts are up because Joe Public in the red hat has been given a chance to show the GOP that they are tired of the same old shit.
    Democratic turnouts are down because Joe Public in the blue hat has not been given a chance to show the DNC they are tired of the same old shit.
     
  2. Yisman

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    I think I agree. The RNC is pretty much screwed regardless.

    I'm pissed at the situation we're going to be left with, but imagine how pissed you'd be if you had a lot invested in the Republican party. They're truly between a rock and a hard place.
     
  3. Petrozza

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    Democrats sound alarm against Trump

     
  4. Big Blocker

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    Of which less than half have gone to Trump.

    Trump is a known quantity in terms of who he is, even if he's said very little about what his policies would be. Yet as bad as HRC's negative numbers are, Trump's are much higher.

    It would take some huge mistake by HRC between now and election day to drive hers higher.

    HRC will win the general election.

    The GOP's real concern right now are Congressional elections. With Trump at the top of the ticket, they stand a good chance of losing the Senate and worse. If someone else other than Cruz is on the top, Cruz likely being just as bad, they at least stand a chance of retaining the Senate.

    What will Trump voters do in Congressional elections if Trump is not on the ticket? Vote for the Dems? Stay home?

    Most will vote GOP anyway.
     
  5. Big Blocker

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    Gee for once I agree with you.

    Putting aside for the moment the downside of him not getting it, at least we can say this:

    The rules say you win the nomination if you go to the convention with more than half the delegates. If you do not, you are entitled to nothing on anything after the first ballot.

    The rules DO NOT SAY the nomination goes to the candidate with the most delegates. You have to have a majority on the first ballot, more than half. Otherwise, you are entitled to nothing.

    Think of an election year when some candidate leads the primaries early, then has some medical problem, like a stroke, and ends up in the hospital in coma. But... when it happens, that candidate still has the most delegates by the convention. The convention is supposed to nominate a vegetable just because he has the most delegates?

    Of course not.
     
  6. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    When Trump is the nominee most of the GOP voters will coalesce behind him. There's too much at stake to allow a third term of Obama policies. The numbers he's getting are people who never voted, independents and crossover democrats. When the rest get in line it will be difficult to beat IMO.
     
  7. dawinner127

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    I see where you are coming from but there are also plenty of republicans who are voting in the primaries for other candidates that will not vote for Trump.
     
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  9. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    true. I am one of them. I think we're very outnumbered though.
     
  10. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    I know my entire family feels this way so I don't think it is that big of a difference. Just no one is really talking about it at the moment
     
  11. 74

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    HRC is a total piece of lying shit. Progressives can go burn in a ring of fire. The GOP establishment is barely any better, than can go to hell also. Maybe Trump is full of shit and will suck but I'd rather find out than have the same old shit thrown in my face for another four years and at the least it will be four years of political entertainment like never before. Nobody in this entire thread has given any good reasons why Trump is not the best candidate. Cuz he's not politically correct? That's why people like him. Cuz he wants to keep illegals out? Good. Just sounds like an entire thread of haters hating.
    Happy st. Patties day! Watch out for the Trumprechaun!
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  12. Big Blocker

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    I think that is ridiculous.

    First of all the Dems have won five of the last six elections by popular vote. There is a reason for that pattern. It is because in general the Dems better represent the popular will.

    YOU may oppose a continuation of Obama's policies. But you are to the right of the average voter, so what you think in this context means shit.

    And fwiw acknowledging it is somewhat anecdotal, I know of lifelong GOP voters who prefer HRC to Trump. And they should. She's a moderate. He's a wackjob who you don't know what he will do.

    Trump voters are a combination of people who want to blow up the GOP and those who buy into the whole authoritarian mind set of following a man on horseback, willing to buy a pig in a poke in the process. That's not a majority of the US.
     
  13. BrowningNagle

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    74 (mangolden)- you are a smart guy, I always like your posts. always. But the notion that the only 2 reasons for Trump dislike are his lack of political correctness and his immigration talk is absurd. Please give us on here and the American public in general a little more credit. Policy-wise he offers very, very little except his absurd ideas for trade reform with an obsession on China. Everything else he offers no answers. nothing.

    I don't like the guy as a candidate because he has no answers and/or wrong answers for this country not because he's a blabbering asshole. I like that he's a blabbering asshole, actually. But I like to watch those people on silly TV shows not from state of the union addresses.
     
  14. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I meant for most GOP voters there is too much at stake for a third term of Obama. I don't include myself in the most because I will not vote for Trump. So your assumption that I was talking about me was wrong.

    We will see what happens with the election. I'm not saying Trump WILL win, but I think he can. I think you're way too sure of an HRC win here. If you're so sure you should put down an assload of money with a bookie and cash in.
     
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  15. 74

    74 Well-Known Member

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    Its him or Hillary. That's the choice. Do you want an asshole or a cunt. I'll support an asshole business man over a socialist lying politician anyday.
     
  16. BrowningNagle

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    I think he can win too. and all you have to do is see the post right above mine to see why but I think if the republicans nominate Trump they are going to be a little less likely to win than if they nominated someone else.

    The big thing is that there isnt going to be alot of people rushing to the polls to vote for Hillary Clinton. Even dems dont really like her if they are being real with themselves, something BB often isnt. So that gives the republican party a big advantage. But putting up a candidate that is equally and perhaps more despised in Trump might just actually cause people to rush to the polls just to vote against Trump. It takes away the 1 true advantage the republican party would've had in this election.
     
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  17. deathstar

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    "Too much at stake"?

    What's that code for - Americans who blame the government for everything instead of themselves?
     
  18. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I don't know why you always go back to this "Americans who blame the government instead of themselves" line. It makes you sound like a dick. Just so you know - my life is just great - so if you're worried I'm "blaming the government instead of myself" for something you've got the wrong guy.

    For one if the next president appoints a liberal supreme court nominee it changes the balance of a lot of 5-4 cases. That's a pretty big deal.

    Then there's all the retarded liberal policies she'll want to push like her hero Merkel. There will be no wall, a push for amnesty, the country will continue moving to the left. It's not often we have one party in control for more than 8 years. That helps keep a balance.
     
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  19. Brook!

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    Hey Ralebird. Although you are right about Joe Public in Blue and Red, it isn't the only reason for the increased Republican turnouts. Trump brings a lot of new voters to the ballots. He has an appeal to a lot of people who has become poorer after 2008 financial crisis.

    Everybody says he will lose because he doesn't appeal to blacks and hispanic and he will have an uphill battle to overcome the deficit. I say he will get plenty of votes from conformist blacks and hispanics and will become the president.

    Good for you. Just to correct my brother here, Hillary isn't a socialist. Not even close. A socialist won't give a speech to Wall Street for $225,000.
     
  20. 74

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    She calls herself a progressive (aka socialist) but we all know she will say anything and do anything for power.
     

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