Religion - a respectful discussion, for those interested

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  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    I think this generation is different--I don't think people today are becoming MORE religious as they get closer to the end of their lives.

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  2. Sam Hammer

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    You can't have an omniscient god AND have free will. They are mutually exclusive concepts. Either we have "free will" and god is not all knowing since we control our own destiny, or god IS all knowing, but free will is a charade and we do not control it. Pick one, you can't have both (logically).
     
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  3. TommyJ

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    logic? oh boy you're in the wrong thread for that action
     
  4. ChrebetCrunch

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    God works in mysterious ways.
     
  5. The Great American

    The Great American Well-Known Member

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    I believe God is all knowing and He knows (in advance) if we will accept Him or reject Him.
     
  6. TommyJ

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    well, he better not judge me on judgement day if he is all knowing and knew in advance about me.
    you cant create a guy like me, then toss strippers and cocaine into the mix, not to mention i suck at math, and not know my life
    would totally derail at one point haa haa! he cant judge if he already knew that in advance. he made me. he gave me my addictions, thanks God!

    ( i stole the above)
     
  7. JStokes

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    We are not having a discussion with God.

    We are mere mortals having a discussion about God and organized religion and specifically the Roman Catholic Church.

    I accept God.

    That's not what's being discussed.

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  8. The Great American

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    Judgement day ... I don't have a thing to wear. (also stolen)
     
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    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    here's a blast from the past...

     
  10. ChrebetCrunch

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    That makes him a colossal asshole. If he is a benevolent god, he would use his magical, mystical powers to lead you along a path of righteousness. It's almost as if this magical sky daddy doesn't even exist and is a human construct.
     
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  11. The Great American

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    God's story is hard to believe. At the heart of it is His Son named Jesus who was killed, buried, and then three days later was seen walking around town. If someone told a story like that about someone today, I probably wouldn't believe it either.
     
  12. JStokes

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    So you're saying that THE God is the God of the Bible.

    The one brought to us most vociferously by the Catholic Church.

    So I'll ask you--can you believe in God, the God of the Catholic Church, believe in Jesus Christ, believe it with all your heart if you don't believe ALL the things the Catholic Church preaches?

    Can you be a good Catholic, believe in God, accept him--even though you don't believe chapter and verse of everything the Vatican and it's cronies tell you to believe?

    Can you be a member of the flock even though you refuse to be a sheep?

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  13. The Great American

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    I'm not Roman Catholic. I agree with very little of their doctrine seeing how I'm Protestant.
     
  14. TommyJ

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    you got that straight boss! his quickness to violence, his need to be worshipped, way too close to home in regards to human characteristics.
    he's so man made its embarrassing. any God that's afraid of new ideas is no creator whatsoever.
     
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    But...but...but... he created us in HIS image.
     
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    Unbelievable things are hard to believe. Out of the thousands of documented gods, why is the guy who sacrificed himself to save us from himself,the real god?
     
  17. TommyJ

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    Yahweh is simply a god who speaks with the voice of frightened tribal desert and cave dwelling barbarians. To even think of applying their codes
    of conduct in this day and age is suicide. could you imagine us today trying to tell people 2000 years from now how to live?
    Outside of be kind to your fellows, and the basic goodness we all know already without the help of religion.
     
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    Get up in the morning slaving for bread, sir
    So that every mouth can be fed
    Poor me Israelites

    My wife an' my kids them a pack up an' a leave me
    Darlin' she said, "I was yours to be seen"
    Poor me Israelites

    Shirt dem a tear-up trousers a go
    I don't want to end up like Bonny and Clyde
    Poor me Israelites

    After a storm there must be a calm
    You catch me in your farm, you sound your alarm
    Poor me Israelites
     
  19. JStokes

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    So you have nothing to add to the conversation.

    Thanks for your contribution.

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