Andrew Luck. Young, coming off a down year. I think we could get him for a late round pick and then renegotiate his deal for the vet minimum. If for some reason, that can't happen, put me in the nobody camp. We'll have to suffer with Geno/Petty and spend ANOTHER high pick on a QB. Good times.
I can't believe I'm seeing Andrew Luck and Matt Ryan trade scenarios. Never happens guys. Teams seldom part with franchise players in the pinnacle of their career unless they know something your team doesn't. I'd rather start Petty, have Geno back him up and draft a QB in the later round. Then if we finish terribly, draft a QB with your first pick.
btw some of the trade scenarios about matt ryan, Andrew luck, and teddy b in this thread are laughable at best. r u guys serious?
To be a good QB in Chan's system you have to be a good passer in the short to immediate game. Fitz is that. Same with Foles. That's why I don't think RG3 or Kap fit in here. I'd be good with Fitz or Foles.
To be a success in the NFL, you need to be able to make the full range of throws. Otherwise a defense will pick you apart if they think you can't make certain throws. In addition, as an O coordinator, you can't confine your offense to a certain part of the field. Finally, I don't agree that Chan's system is confined to short and intermediate passes. He is not afraid to to air it out every once in a while, which you must do. We can argue about whether Fitz' arm is strong enough to be effective on long passes, but he must take a chance and go deep every so often.
Mine was more of a jab at the former GM for not drafting Teddy in the first place like we should have, indicated by the time machine joke. Everyone else is being equally as sarcastic. The reality is if we don't land Fitz we're F'd as far as FA options are concerned. The only course of ation is to kick the tires on Petty, and draft another QB with our #1 or 2 pick and hope one can can go through their progressions as well as the system dictates that they do. You don't have to have a great arm to thrive in Chan's system but you have to be able to read the coverage and go through progressions quickly aka (high QB-IQ). Something that neither Kaep nor Bobby Three Sticks is good at.
Jets need someone who can throw the deep ball and stretch the defense. Fitz's pop warner arm will never take us further than mediocrity. He's nothing more than a Steve DeBerg - a career stopgap/backup QB. Try to trade for Kaepernick or try to sign Robert Griffin III. If Mike Maccagnan misses out on both those guys, then you draft another QB and let Geno and Petty battle for the starting job in training camp.
Not a good introduction on your 1st post lol I love how everyone wants real life NFL teams to emulate madden: Bootleg left 20 yards, bombs ball 50 yards, TD!!! It's all about the deep-ball and being able to scramble with the QB *sigh*.
Really, this is by far our best option. We have two QBs on the roster who already know the system. Both are on rookie contracts right now and cheap. Save the cap space. Either Geno from the pre-season last year shows up (who was the clear starter until he got punched as he showed MUCH better decision making, Oakland game not included since he had no rhythm with the starters) or he reverts to Shitty Geno and Petty gets a chance to show us what he has. For all we know, Petty could be a stronger version of Fitz (but hopefully less negative yard completions that are purely for the sake of completing passes) who can throw the ball more than 20 yards downfield. So take a one year hit (maybe) and either succeed beyond we expected or we tank and didn't COMPLETELY destroy our cap on some shitty starter like Foles or Glennon or Mettenberger or whoever crappy player people on here are drooling over. There's not a single decent option after Fitz on the market and Fitz wants way more money than he deserves. If he deserved the 14-15m he wants, he wouldn't have made it this far into free agency.
The investment in Forte further solidifies the fact that this is a "win-now" team. There isn't time to guess and try to develop a QB, Fitz is a critical part to the viability of this team. Thankfully no one else wants to pay him top dollar either so there's a good chance both sides come to an agreement since it's in the best interest of both parties.
I don't think you can say that. That what the OC did with Fitz because Fitz can't throw the deep ball with consistent accuracy. The jets clearly wanted a burner who could stretch the field, but with Fitz it's not possible to connect with such a burner with consistency. I suspect a big part of the reason the Jets haven't been willing to pony up more money for Fitz is because he can't throw the deep ball well (and that means they can only go so far with him). I think if the Jets have Geno as their QB next year they'd throw a lot more deep balls because he throws it well and there'd be fewer short and intermediate passes (although they'd still have a fair number of screens). I'm not saying Geno is better than Fitz, just that the OC would change the game plan to suit Geno's strengths rather than fitz's strengths.
Denver keeping in touch with Fitz makes me nervous. I'm worried that if the Browns do trade for Kaep, Denver will sign Fitz within hours.