The trade up cost varies from year to year depending on the player the team is trading up for and how many teams are interested in said player. Remember we traded up from 17 to 5 for what amounted to a bag of Skittles in terms of value. While I don't advocate trading up from 20 to 1 for Wentz, the cost may not be as steep as it would be in other years. Note I referenced trading up to the 1st overall pick as I believe Cleveland will definitely pick him at 2.
Because there is no "sure thing" qb in this class I think a lot of teams are going to wait and "take their Carr in the second". If I'm the Browns I don't take a qb in the first; I get a rockstar like jack. The 49ers.... Well they're just nuts. No telling what they're going to do. The Eagles just gave Bradford a ton of money so they're not looking for a qb from the draft to start this year. The Rams have a big contract with Foles and put a first round tinder (they swiped right get it!) on Case. I think there's a chance that the Rams fill in some holes in defense or get a real #1 receiver. So now you might have one of the top 3 qbs slide to #20. Do you pull the trigger or grab the linebacker you've had your eye on?
Agree, I can't see the Jets moving up to take any of this crop of QBs. However, if the Jets can't re-sign Fitz which seems to be an increasing possibility, I can see the Jets taking one of the top 3 QB's at 20, if one of them should be available. The thinking would be: Well, we need a QB, so why not see what one of these top rated guys can bring to our team. In the past when the Jets have targeted QBs, it hasn't worked out, so who knows, if one of these guys should fall to the Jets, it's possible they may just work out.
I seriously doubt Jared Goff's still available at #20 and if he somehow were, I'd pull the trigger in a heartbeat. But that's a pipedream - imho he'll be long gone by then. As for Lynch, no thanks, and Wentz?.....too much of a multi-year project esp. with Petty around and Fitz in contract limbo (let alone figuring out what the hell they're going to do with Geno Smith).
If Paxton is there at twenty, I'm taking him. The improvement he showed in his final season in college was amazing. Before September, he wasn't even discussed as a top 100 pick; he has issues such as field vision, inexperience, and inconsistent ball placement..There's definitely a ton of bust potential, but his ability to create, progession year to year as a player and upside is the selling point for me. Goff's upside is limited, IMO and I don't like Wentz. If we we can't land Paxton, I'd be fine with a Cardale Jones in round four(if he even falls that far).
Sigh. Guess I should watch the tape on him now. EDIT: Just watched his game against Clemson, and, man, does he get him. Can see why he's learned how to roll off those arm tackles.
Jacoby Brissett is similar to Winston. He will be one of the best QBs in this class. He is one of the only QBs I would be happy with the Jets drafting.
Watched a few more games. Doesn't seem like he enjoys taking shots downfield. In your opinion, is that just the system that he ran at NC State?
Taking shots downfield requires time that his porous didn't afford him. That said; deep ball accuracy is one of the things he needs to work on.
I disagree. He's got great size, an excellent arm, but just doesn't make that many plays with his arm. I really wanted to like him, but after seeing him fail time after time in games, eventually gave up o him. IF he can put it all together, he has the potential to be one of the best QBs in this class, but at this point, I don't see him putting it together.
I could be wrong about Brissett. He obviously impressed that scout or those scouts. I saw much of the NC State-UNC game, part of the the NC State-Clemson game and most of the bowl game vs. Miss. St. He just didn't impress me. He didn't make many plays in crunch time. His athleticism and talent are obvious. He has great size and a pretty strong arm. He's pretty accurate, and his stats were pretty good (237/395, 20 TDs/6 interceptions, 60% completion percentage, 2,662 yards, 6.7 yards per completion). I certainly think he can be better than a lot of the hangers on QBs in the NFL, but can he become a quality starter in the NFL? That remains to be seen. My memory may be faulty, but I don't recall reading much positive on him from Sr. Bowl Week, either. I wouldn't object to the Jets using their 5th or 7th round pick on him if he's still there and there isn't a quality PR/KOR, OG or TE, and maybe even if there are other good prospects available. Gailey might be able to develop him. I respect your opinion, but am still skeptical regarding Brissett. I wish I weren't. I love his size and athleticism, just am not convinced regarding his instincts, football IQ, decision making, and ability to read defenses. In fairness, maybe the poor OL and/or system made him look worse than he actually was.
That's the answer right there. One positive out of playing behind that o-line and system is that he's developed very good pocket awareness. The best I've seen from a prospect in a short while. He doesn't panic as the pocket collapses. You'll see him step up, slide or make throws with guys draped all over him. Hackenberg dealt with similar obstacles and he crumbled.
You couldn't be more wrong imo. This is a rebuilding team. They're just trying to remain competitive while they're rebuilding. No one in their right mind would go all in because they have a LT, C, ILB, WR and CB who are getting old, especially when they don't have a QB or a pass rushing LB, and that LT's play is pretty bad.
If you are rebuilding, it seems counterintuitive to sign a CB to a 5 year, $70 million contract with $39 million guaranteed.
