Democratic Nomination Thread

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Why would proper disposal of waste water have any impact on earthquakes or not?
     
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    Hey now... Let's leave poor Blinky alone. He did try to talk policy but just couldn't get anyone to listen. The whole faux thug thing didn't help much for his credibility.
     
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    okay so this isn't my expertise by any means. So I know I will not be able to adequately answer your question. Honestly I am not sure there really is an adequate answer to your question yet because experts are still running studies on that very thing.

    I personally gave my opinion that the issue resides with deep injection of wastewater based on what I know about Pennsylvania and their requirements. Something different than Oklahoma/Texas, other than the lack of earthquakes. But I could very well be wrong. In my post you quoted, I left out North Dakota. In North Dakota they inject wastewater back underground as well like Oklahoma & Texas and they haven't had issues with earthquakes either. So it could depend a lot on the geology in areas too, I'm sure it does to a degree.

    this article from the U.S. Geological Survey provides a fair look at some of the myths and facts on wastewater injection in fracking. It might give you a clearer opinion from the experts: https://profile.usgs.gov/myscience/upload_folder/ci2015Jun1012005755600Induced_EQs_Review.pdf
     
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    Weren't people in Pennsylvania and North Dakota lighting the water from their sink taps on fire?
     
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    Big win for Sanders tonight in Michigan. Polls got it pretty wrong! :confused:
     
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    Change is happening...Massive debate later today
     
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    For sure. I wonder if Clinton attacking Sanders on the auto industry bailout backfired on her. It's much easier to fact check nowadays than it used to be, and I saw numerous news articles bringing it up very quickly.

    Bernie's definitely got social media on his side. Nearly every US friend I have on Facebook, mostly under 40's, is supporting him at this stage, along with a lot of the international community as he gains name recognition. To be fair, a lot of the people I know from USA are pretty well traveled and have seen what other Western countries can provide. I damaged cartilage in my knee a couple of years ago, and had to have surgery on it in the end. What did it cost me? About 10 dollars per session for initial Physio visits, and zilch for the surgery and consultations. We may not have the top of the top that Healthcare could potentially offer, but the quality of service is generally really good. I still have private health insurance on top, but that wasn't touched for this. I merely have it for potential elective surgeries in the future (it covered wisdom teeth surgery for example). People who visit from USA see that, and ask themselves why they're paying so much.

    His message about money in politics seems to be resonating strongly with youth as well. It's weird, since everyone seems to have always complained about it in the past, but when there's a candidate looking to change things, there's a sudden resistance. Sanders is the first viable candidate in a long while who could push for major reform in that area. However, it would require a surge of democrats who back him at the other levels for anything to realistically happen, should he somehow win the nomination.
     
  9. Brook!

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    Where do you live Cidusii?

    The thing you talked about health care is true about education as well.

    Can you imagine an America where every kid in America has equal shot of being admitted to Harvard, Stanford, Yale with zero tuition?

    It really is possible. Too bad when you talk about these things you are called a socialist or a communist.

    I still don't feel the Bern as he is too college activist for my taste but I am happy he is getting good results. Maybe it is because I dislike phony Hillary very much.
     
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    If that ever happened, the US would be indeed a communist country - everything would be state owned. Current Sanders' plan talks about free tuition in public colleges only, so no free tuition at Harvard.... sorry. Also, if everyone had an equal shot of being admitted to Harvard or any other Ivy League school, their prestige would instantly diminish.
     
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    if you get accepted to Harvard today you go for free. nobody really pays for harvard because they have such an enormous endowment. What Brook is talking about is already here.

    as for public schools- what Sanders is talking about is on its way too. Whether there is a federal mandate or not I believe "free" or ridiculously cheap public schools are just around the corner. Its been that way in California for quite some time and even Ohio State has transitioned a little bit to make their school free for those that are accepted. These massive public schools with deep endowments are finding the best way to keep kids in state and attend their school is to drastically eliminate tuition. Only in dumb ass states like Louisiana will you see an LSU build a $85 million swimming pool to attract students instead of putting that money towards keeping costs down.

    Sanders proposal would hurt the smaller private schools that rely on enrollment and tuition big time, but the big public schools, the smart ones anyway, will transition towards what he is talking about on their own in the coming years just to beat out these smaller private schools for students.

    I dont necessarily agree with what Sanders is talking about in regards to public schools because I dont think the federal govt should force such a thing but its already happening and isn't that outlandish of a plan in comparison to others he's had.
     
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    Sorry Petro. You are right. I didn't formulate my opinion in detail. Of course no free tuition for private colleges. Just regulate them. Currently Harvard is a corporation. Where on earth a college is generating a revenue of billions of dollars. A college should just be a college. Minimum possible tuition.

    I will give example from Europe again. In most European countries public colleges are way ahead of private colleges. In Turkey only dumb kids with rich parents who couldn't get into a public college goes to private colleges and everybody knows they are just there to cater dumb rich kids. Same in Germany. Very strong public colleges. Same in Austria, Norway and other European countries. I don't China or Japan but I don't think students graduate with tons of debt.

    Basic human needs are health and education. Currently cost of these are ridiculously high in USA. Not a good day to write long for me but we can discuss later.
     
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    Also, New York Times has been my favorite paper for years even from my days in Turkey. I am ashamed with their coverage so far. Pro Hillary in a way I can't describe.
     
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    Look Petro

    I have no problem with NYT picking sides. They are entitled to their opinion. They said Hillary and they have a right to say Hillary. But journalism should be objective journalism. Bernie is pulling the upset in Michigan and this is how NYT is seeing it.

    "Senator Bernie Sanders scored an upset win in the Michigan Democratic primary, threatening to prolong a Democratic campaign that Hillary Clinton appeared to have all but locked up last week."

    Prolong? Really? Threatening to prolong? They are so pro Hillary and throwing out all journalistic ethic out the window, I can't even imagine.

    If you must know, I am also WSJ subscriber.
     
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    Harvard is talking about going tuition-free. Their endowment rivals the national wealth of most countries in the world at this point.

    They're talking about taking the best cross-section of the US as their population. That would be the best and brightest of the graduates with racial preferences built in to make Harvard's student population exactly match the US population.

    It's an interesting concept.

    Right now Harvard's population is unrepresentative of the US as a whole and they're looking for ways to match up. This is called staying relevant in a country where the the elite are becoming increasingly unpopular.
     
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    yes I always have to laugh when folks point out the Harvard and Yale's of the world's sticker price in an argument against free tuition. Those schools are the ones actually leading the charge on their own!


    and the idea that its a communist proposal? its actually playing out the opposite. Its a capitalist proposal. lots of these big endowment schools are finally figuring out that how much they charge in tuition is a pretty big determining factor as to how many students want to attend. (duh). so there's a sharp trend towards lowering costs and even free for competitive reasons.
     
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    Racial preferences. Nice
     

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