I see where you are coming from, but I agree with 101 here. It's a big IF. He's one failed drug test away from a year suspension. Generally when guys have character flaws it lowers their potential. Right now, in my eyes, Richardson does not have a higher ceiling. Plus Wilkerson hasn't even reached his ceiling yet. Physical talent will only get you so far in the NFL, much of it is mental. Sure, he could surpass Mo some day, but the odds are against it IMO.
Where the player comes from has 0 relevancy to this argument. If a player has character concerns, that can limit their contributions period. FA, draft, it does not matter. IF, IF, IF that is too many IFs to let a player of Wilk's caliber go. There is no wait and see game with Sheldon. You try and get Wilk resigned and IF Sheldon were to actually clean up his act, then the Jets simply will cross that bridge when they get there. You simply don't play these types of games with a player as good as Mo. Letting Mo go has no benefits but making another team that much stronger. You aren't getting back equal value so you are essentially already losing the battle.
If Mo's character is so great, then why isn't his motor better? Why does he take plays off? The bolded sentence is just nonsense. You're totally blinded by your man crush.
I agree, but we have to have a plan in place. Due to our cap situation it would either come from promoting within (Qvale) or the draft. At the right price he's a good player to have around.
Point out the specific plays where Mo played lazy? I guess you are blowing Mehta from the Daily news again. Smh at you thinking a 2nd round pick and a 4th is better value then Mo.
I guess because he's never driven 140mph with a kid and a gun in his car it's ok for him to not go one hundred percent every down.
Supposedly taking plays off isn't nearly as bad as being a hair's breath from what might as well be a lifetime ban (look at Josh Gordon, he might never play again). And believe me, Richardson will be way more obnoxious when it comes time to sign him, assuming he's still in the league by then.
We'll see if he has any success. Regardless of whether he does, he won't be playing for the Browns, which means the Browns lost their investment.
Browns aren't going to release him. They are going to see if he can perform like he did before getting suspended. They have no wrs they need to see what he could do.
Sorry, my bad, I thought they were releasing him. Must have gotten him confused with Manziel. Still it's unclear whether he can perform adequately again, and all for smoking some weed. The way the NFL rules are, it's too risky IMO to bank on Richardson to stay clean the rest of his career. Let him play out his rookie deal with Mo under contract and decide what to do when it's his turn to hit free agency. If he keeps out of trouble and we have the cap space, sign him. If we don't, trade him. And if he becomes the next Gordon, it's a good thing we kept Mo.
Nice. If you want to take the gloves off, I can do that. I will overlook your comment this time, but next time will not. SMH at you. Trading Mo isn't just about whatever picks we would get in return. It's also about the $15.7 million in cap space that we could use to sign other players. SMH at you talking about Mo like he's some HOF player. Unbelievable.
I wasn't comparing him with Richardson with that comment. It was strictly a comment to those who talk about Mo as if he's the greatest player ever to grace the Jets and is perfect. Mo has had a reputation for taking plays off and not having a great motor. That's one aspect of character and of a player's on field performance.
What are you talking about? You have either over valued the position he plays.. Or You over value MO. Perhaps, both? Not sure, however, to say we would not benefit from trading MO is nonsense. He is not the cog that makes this defense click, he isn't even a game changer, just a good player. If you look at his sacks, most of them came as a result of someone elses hard work or he was given a free release off the line. Trading MO frees up a bunch of needed cap space that would shore up the many holes we have on this roster, it would give us much needed draft picks, and we would get younger in the process. Losing Harrison would be more of a set back to this line as the roster stands, than losing MO. There are no IFS, it's either Richardson works out or he doesn't, if he doesn't then we will find someone else, if he does, then the move will look amazing to dump MO for the big picture. MO is not the best at his position, he isn't a Hall of fame type player either, it is foolish to invest a ton of money into a guy who is a good consistent player with a limited ceiling.
We have to look at all of our high paid players and consider that our team was not good enough to make the playoffs last year. If every one of them was earning their $6-17 million per year there was enough money being thrown around for us to make some more noise. Considering the guys we had on rookie or cheap deals like Mo, Fitz, Snacks, L. Williams, Ivory, Powell, etc. the case for these guys continuing to get as much or even more money is worse. Sure we lost a bunch of close games but we had and easy schedule and on paper we should have won most of those near misses. The point is that if we are going to miss the playoffs next year (or even if we get bounced in round one) we can do it without the help of Mo Wilkerson, Brick, Mangold, Mevis, or any of these other bums that let us down.
As far as I am concerned, the Jets will not have Mo under that cap number. He's either getting traded or resigned. With that established, he's our best defensive player, no one is calling him HOF bound, but he's very vital to the Jets success now and in the future.
Finding a replacement for Snacks is a lot easier then finding a replacement for Mo. Harrison is a 2 down run stopper that plays around 50% of the snaps. You go compare that to Mo and explain to me why Snacks is more vital. It's not just about sacks, but causing disruption. Mo's skill-set to me is essential because he takes on double teams, is able to rush the passer, stop the run. It's a very good skill-set in today's NFL. He's the type of lineman that makes everyone around him better. This is why I value him very highly. It's not just about his position, but his overall contribution to the team. No doubt, gotta get a deal done with Mo - but there are IFs with Sheldon and you cannot complete a sentence without using IF with Sheldon because his future is 110% uncertain. So now, you are saying if things don't work out to dump Sheldon. ONLY the Jets would acquire 2 potential all-pro players and ONLY the Jets would let BOTH of them leave going forward without GREAT compensation. Mo is in the top 5 of interior pass-rushers in the NFL [which makes him one of the top players at his position], NC couldn't even name 3 other guys that were better. Perhaps can you? The big picture is keeping your young home grown talent in house.
Don't forget Crapmartie. Oh wait, that's right, he's the biggest bum of all and you want to keep him. Lmao
We should have a good deal of cap space when Richardson's deal is up. There will be plenty of room. Mangold, Brick will already be off the books in 2018, which is a year after after we accept Richardson's option in 2017 off-season. Revis's contract will be at 10M, in which I am sure that # won't be the same and could be even lower. We aren't paying a QB, 100M dollars. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/cap/2018/
Stop dwelling in the past, Cromartie has already been cut. Do you want to talk about how to fix this team or do you just want to keep acting like a little bitch?
