All those things you said are the question marks that make the qb not worth trading up for. You don't pay the price for a qb who's size is in question or might be a system qb or has character concern. Missing in a trade up just sets you back too much
Trading up for this guy in the first round is a firable offense. I'd consider it in round three , which is where he should go. I'll pass and allow Cleveland to take an FCS QB with the 2nd pick in the draft. If Paxton were to drop past 25 or so, I would like to see the Jets attempt to move up for him, but he's the only QB I'd personally trade up for at the end of round one.
Goff is better than Wentz... Also trading all that for a small school kid would be the definition of dumb because his floor is real low...
Moving up to get that franchise QB is something that I've advocated in the past. The position is so important that it's worth a few first round picks in the immediate future to secure a decade or so of winning football. However, you only do that when you are convinced the guy you are going after is a "can't miss" prospect. In any given year, the top QB's are going to be considered 1st round picks, but are they "can't miss" prospects? Based on what I've seen and heard about this current crop of QBs, your reason no. 4 raises enough doubt that you don't want to pull the trigger right now.
Last year was the year to move from 6 to 1 or 2 to get Mariota but neither of those teams were trading out. He's the real deal. Going from 20 all the way up to 2 for Wentz is absolute insanity. He may be great. He may be a fluke. He is no sure thing. Not like Marcus. _
There aren't any franchise QB's in this draft that stand out. There are a bunch of guys that you might get lucky on. A bunch of teams went for that pool in 2014 and only Oakland got really lucky, and it's not clear that even Carr will be a top 10 QB at this point.
True, but Carr was a second round choice. You can afford to gamble in the second round. If you screw up, it doesn't cost nearly as much as when you screw up in the first round.
Not to mention you'd be talking about trading at minimum three first round picks and a couple second rounders to make that move which means that player better turn into Aaron Rodgers or prime Peyton right away to fill all the gaps you're leaving in your roster the next three years as a result of giving up all those picks. Not happening.
In the past, to move to no. 1 the usual price is a no. 1 this year and next year, plus a no. 2 either this year or next year. Maybe throw in a player or another lesser draft choice to sweeten the deal. If the guy you were targeting was "can't miss" and had a good chance to be a Peyton/Brady/Rodgers caliber QB, would you make the deal?
At the time everybody was debating those QB's I said I thought Bridgewater was the one with the highest floor and most 1st round worthy but that the team picking the 4th QB might well get the best one. Carr was the guy I really didn't want the Pats to take. I was glad to see him get by them at the end of the 1st round. The really choice spots to take a QB are the top 4 picks in the 2nd round. There's still a fairly good chance that a guy that is there has some value and just slipped out of the 1st because of individual team preferences. Once you get to the point that the worst 4 teams have passed on a guy twice the odds on him being a good QB are fairly low. The worst 4 teams always need a QB somewhere between the 4 of them and a couple of them have probably eyeballed the QB prospects until their eyes were popping out by the time of the draft. Those teams also tend to have at least one new management team on the job doing the eyeballing.
I agree if we were going to move up last year for Mariota was our only play. I knew he was the real deal...
Whoa whoa whoa--a few months ago you said Carr's upside was likely a career journeyman. Now you're debating whether he'd be a top 10 QB? Lol you hated Bridgewater. _
To be honest I still like Goff more than Wentz. I doubt we pick up any QB this year. I just love his feet. And it would cost way too much to get into the top 5 it'd take to get Goff or Wentz. All of our money is in on Wilkerson, Revis and D'Brick. Two of those are over 30, the other is franchise tagged. That tells me we need to diversify our roster with young, effective stars. We have who? Our last few first rounders? The guard is changing and we need draft picks more than one single player.
