You just don't get it. They are ELECTED OFFICIALS. How is that anti-democratic? Answer - it isn't. This whole conspiracy shtick among Sanders supporters is ridiculous.
You're the one who is lost. Elected officials are elected to LEGISLATE, not pick the next nominee for their party. Elections belong to the people. Or not, according to you.
Its not an election. Its a primary, and its run by an organization that is entitled to its own rules. You don't have to participate in it if you don't like it. There is another party out there that welcomes institutional instability if you haven't noticed.
Are you one of these guys that gets mad when your elected officials do things a majority of their constituents disapprove of?
Am I mad when politicians blatantly disregard what the people who elected them want? Yeah. If you're happy being ignored by those in power, more power to you!
Nothing like the political season...Perfect way to build a shit-storm on boards, and keep mods on their A game. I hope no one gets banned over these candidates!
Elected officials are elected, by what process? The democratic process. How is that not democratic??? And primaries are not elections per se. They belong to the parties. The parties set the rules. In fact I found this interesting tidbit - Tad Devine, probably Sanders's chief strategist and frequent spokesperson, was himself involved in developing the super delegate system for the Democratic Party: "The process is what the process is," said Tad Devine, a senior adviser to Sanders who actually helped craft the superdelegate rules in the 1980s. http://www.whdh.com/story/31350490/long-before-clinton-dnc-rules-gave-edge-to-establishment And I still don't understand why Sanders supporters feel it necessary to trash the Democratic Party with all kinds of conspiracy theories. That's not being a progressive. That's just special pleading.
There was once a time when politicians in Alabama and Mississippi and elsewhere were more than happy to provide what the people who elected them wanted when it was state sanctioned terrorism against black people. Blatantly disregarding what the people wanted required some adult in the room to exercise his conscience even though it might cost somebody some votes. Yay Democracy! I'm sorry if you feel you're being victimized by the Democratic Party's nominating process. You are free to join another party.
I can think of an obvious reason for the super delegate rules that we see involved in the havoc that exists in the GOP primaries. The problem is that the primaries became increasingly front loaded as more and more states moved their primary dates up in order to seek some perceived greater influence. And today is viewed by many as a major event, so much so that today's losers are viewed as so hampered, it will be almost impossible to recover. Yet the conventions themselves are 5 or so months away, and Election Day roughly 8 months away. Since delegates but not super delegates are bound to the candidate under whose name they ran, through the first ballot, the super delegates can balance that out a bit if subsequent events show that the otherwise leader has disqualified him or herself in the interim. In other words they can act as a counterweight to this whole front loaded process.
Hillary could have imploded, just like she did last time the Dems handpicked her in 2008. Sanders could have burst onto the stage with a very charismatic presentation like Obama did and taken over the process. So far neither of those things have happened and so Hillary is very likely to effectively clinch the nomination as early as today. That's not undemocratic that's just the way the expectations led and the breaks followed. If Sanders wins a few states by hefty margins he'll get a chance to equalize but so far he hasn't been able to follow up on New Hampshire. BTW, the Sanders polls in the general election may not be that far off the mark. Obama got the victory margins that he did in 2008 and 2012 because the electorate as a whole really wants change at this point and average voters feel as though they are very under-represented in Congress. Sanders could wind up with 350 electoral votes pretty easily in a general election that cannot be gerrymandered the way the House districts are. He might even wind up with a few of those gerrymandered districts voting his way given the dynamics in play, however only a few states apportion delegates to the electoral college by district and none of the big ones do.
Parties belong to the party apparatus and always have. When a party is unable to control the electoral process for it's candidates in the primaries you can argue that it has ceased to be an effective party. If Trump actually pulls off his takeover of the GOP it will be a very different party exiting the election than it was going in. Exactly how that manifests itself is unclear at this point. Trump has to not only win the nomination but also the election to make that happen. During the 70's and 80's there were a bunch of states that reliably voted Republican in the Presidential election but sent a majority of Democratic House candidates to Washington and also had Democratic State Legislatures. I wouldn't be surprised to see such a split occur again for the GOP this time for a few years as things sort themselves out. Virginia and Florida are two examples of states that might look very schizophrenic on the national scene politically speaking for a couple of cycles. Same for West Virginia and Ohio.
I know you are an idiot Mr Dentist but I really couldn't think you would be this idiot. How did you become a dentist again?
My daughter was front row, stage left at the Bernie rally. Shook his hand, and she's besides herself. Oh to be young and impressionable again.
If Republicans had superdelegates, Trump wouldn't have been the kind of big fucking headache that he is now, don't you think? I mean - it's rather amazing to me. Anyone with enough brain SHOULD be able to see why superdelegate system was put in place, and what can happen to the party without it. And you had the nerve to claim superdelegates are pointless in the face of Republican fiasco. Am I supposed to laugh here now? Very well - the fact that superdelegates aren't too favorable toward Bernie Sanders doesn't mean it's pointless.
Ahh is that why the percentages aren't matching up? Was wondering about that! Sent from my SM-N910U using Tapatalk
