Jetswire 7 round Jets Mock

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  1. themorey

    themorey Well-Known Member

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    It's not mine but I saw it on the Interweb from Jetswire (
    http://jetswire.usatoday.com/2016/0...xander-to-jets-in-new-7-round-nfl-mock-draft/) and wanted to share. No OL, which is a major downside, but otherwise I like it.

    Round 1, 20th pick: Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
    I’ll admit, this could be a bit of a slide for Alexander, who was the best pure cover corner in college football in 2015. With that being said, the more people I talk to expect Alexander to fall out of the top 15, which would make him excellent value for the Jets at 20.

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    The former Clemson Tiger is the perfect player to develop under Darrelle Revis and Todd Bowles, as he wins with physicality at the line of scrimmage and technique. Alexander could come into camp and compete for starter reps with Marcus Williams right away.

    Round 2, 51st pick: Jordan Jenkins, OLB, Georgia

    With Calvin Pace set to turn 36 next year (and a free agent at the moment), the Jets need to start thinking about the future of outside linebacker on their roster. Enter Jenkins, the perfect replacement who is a physical leader, sets the edge, and has an extremely high football IQ.
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    Round 3, 83rd pick: CJ Prosise, RB, Notre Dame

    The former wide receiver was impressive filling in at running back for Notre Dame in 2015. The sub 4.5 forty-yard dash runner also carries great size at 6′, 220 pounds, making him a great candidate to be an every down back.

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    If Bilal Powell walks in free agency, the Jets will need a new third down back. Prosise has the potential to fill that role effectively right away

    Round 4: Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State

    The Jets land another 4th round quarterback to stash on their roster and develop over the long-term, although Prescott is a very different prospect than 2015 selection Bryce Petty was.

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    Prescott has enough arm to mold into a competent quarterback, but where he can elevate his game is with his legs and ability to take care of the football. Adding him into the mix in New York gives the Jets a second intriguing project quarterback that would not need to see the field until well after the 2016 or 2017 seasons.

    Round 5: Devon Cajuste, WR/TE, Stanford

    The Long Island product had a great combine weekend, producing the 5th best 3 cone time for a wide receiver since 2006. What’s even more incredible about this is that the 6’4, 234 pounder is more of a hybrid tight end similar to Quincy Enunwa.

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    The Jets should look to build depth on day three and Cajuste is the ideal back up at the h-back position who could also contribute in the red zone.

    Round 7: Tom Hackett, P, Utah

    I refuse to change this pick. The two time Ray Guy Award winner is here to stay, putting an end to the legendary Ryan Quigley era.
     
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  2. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Alexander would be a great addition to our secondary, but it would be disappointing not to get either a pass rusher or OL at #20 imo.

    Jenkins is a solid football player, but wouldn't upgrade the LB corps with better speed. As much as we need another OLB, I think I'd rather go in another direction with the 2nd round pick and take a different OLB in the 3rd or 4th round if possible.

    I like Prosise's potential a lot, but his lack of experience at RB would be a concern, particularly in terms of picking up blitzers. If he can't do that, then he wouldn't even be a 3rd down back, much less see the field with any regularity (if at all).

    I love the Hackett pick, and am ok with the Cajuste pick, but wouldn't be thrilled with the Prescott pick.
     
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  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The secondary doesn't need any help. I stopped reading there. Not to mention I like Alexander but you seem to be reaching on a guy with 0 career collegiate interceptions when teams passer against them all season long as a result of being up the whole time. This team needs to stand pat in the secondary.
     
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  4. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I don't know anything about Alexander except he played for Clemson and is cocky, so I can't speak to how good a prospect he may be, although I do know that he is highly rated.

    I disagree with your statement that the secondary doesn't need any help. Williams is far from a sure thing as the #2 CB. The depth with Milliner and McDougle isn't very inspiring. If Williams fails in TC or if Revis gets hurt, the team would be in serious trouble. Further, I think there's a good chance that Revis gets cut following this season as it would save the Jets over $13 million on next year's cap. Adding his potential replacement and giving that guy a year to learn the D and adjust to the NFL would be a plus. As I said, I wouldn't want our pick at #20 to be a CB, but I think there's certainly a case to justify it, particularly since CB is supposed to be the 2nd strongest position group in this draft class, and many draft pundits think it wise to draft to the strength of the draft.
     
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  5. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    We have too many holes to try to add to a secondary that has $40+ million invested in it. We have 3 good players in Pryor, Gilchrist snd Revis in it. We also have one of the league leaders in picks in Williams. He's more than serviceable with all the talent around it.

    I think you're all going to be incredibly surprided at how well he plays but we'll see.
     
  6. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    You seem to forget that Mac doesn't draft for need. He drafts for BPA at least in the early rounds. At #20 or #51, a CB could definitely be the BPA in Mac's mind.
     
  7. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    BPA is the most overrated phrase in all of draft talk. Every team takes the best player available. Leonard Williams was only drafted because he was the best player in the draft or considered so, along with the impending Sheldon problems and Wilkerson's contract problems.

    If you have several players under contract without legal troubles that are good players you don't take "BPA" and I doubt Mac does. Outside of the shite franchises lime the Browns I'd bet 25/32 teams blend a combo of BPA and need. If Zeke or Noah Spence are there but he rated Alexander higher who is he going to take? The only time that scenario comes into play is if say a top 5 player in the draft like Winston for example last year fell to a team like the Steelers in the late 20s. They'd almost have no choice but to take him.
     
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  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    And regardless I think with Skrine/Gilchrist/Pryor/Revis in the secondary with $40ish million tied up into them secondary is the last thing on Mac's mind. He built that secondary. He'd look foolish to take a corner and I'm sure he knows it.
     
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    Love all the picks except Alexander. Will Fuller got open at will against him but didn't have the QB to get him the ball. It will be different in the NFL. Though one injury leaves our secondary vulnerable so CB could be on the radar.
     
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    You know there would be complete anarchy at #20 if we took another round 1 CB regardless of the so called BPA psychology.
     
  11. NCJetsfan

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    Some teams do ignore BPA and "reach" totally out of need. I've always said that if two players were roughly rated equally but one of them played either a position of need on your team or played a position of greater value (QB, LT, OLB) you'd take him even if the other player was the higher-rated of the two.

    In the case of the Jets it would not be foolish for Mac to take a CB. That's nonsense imo. Most of that $40 million was tied up to be a short-term fix for the secondary, and was tied up in Revis and Cromartie. Cromartie's already gone. Following your view of things, Mac must be foolish for cutting Cromartie. Revis is being paid too much money and his play is in decline. Williams has a lot of potential, but at this point that's all it is in terms of his starting. Bowles was sure hesitant to play Williams a lot last season or start him when Cromartie was playing so badly. That must suggest that Williams' play in practice made Bowles nervous. After Revis and Williams, the Jets have Milliner and McDougle at CB. Milliner can't stay healthy and McDougle hasn't looked very effective/good. Walls may still be there or he may be a FA, I don't remember, but he didn't play very well last year at all. He shouldn't be back. Revis could very well be cut following the 2016 season. LOTS of GMs draft players to develop for a year before an older player at a position retires or is cut. Another CB would also function as insurance in case Williams struggles.

    In your scenario, if Williams flops as a starter, the Jets are basically screwed. We all know how important the CB is in Bowles' defensive scheme, so to suggest that if Mac drafts another CB he's being foolish is foolishness in and of itself.
     
  12. JStokes

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    Love the Proise pick.

    Hate the Prescott pick.

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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    You have your facts wrong. Before Cromartie was cut we had S47 million tied into the secondary. Since then we now have $39 million. Revis, Skrine, Gilchrist, Pryor are all guaranteed on the roster. Not short term fixes.

    You're welcome to think what you want. Every secondary has a weak link which includes the Legion of Boom with garbage on the other side of Sherman. Our "garbave" opposite Revis can be Williams and he's a solid player in limited action. Tie another $8-10 million into a corner and we will not improve our offensive line, inside linebacker, outside linebacker or special teams at all. It's a numbers game. We'll take a low round corner and let him compete for a spot.

    I'd bet money on it we stand relatively pat at corner unless you're talking about signing a Mike Jenkins type player whom is pretty much trash.

    To draft another corner will mean we have allocated resources to get Kyle Wilson,Dee Milliner,Calvin Pryor, Antonio Cromartie, and the list goes on. We're done fucking around with this secondary garbage IMO.
     
  14. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Somewhere in the first 4 rounds an o lineman needs to be the pick. I would take prescott out and grab one there.
     
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    I don't mean to be a dick, - but not 1 O-lineman??
     
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    Boy would I hate that Prescott pick. Tajh Boyd 2.0
     
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    And that's an insult to Tajh Boyd. Boyd was actually a gunslinger, just way too small for the league.

    I don't think Prescott is a QB.

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    Change Prescott to the best available lineman and you got a deal. I wouldn't be happy with a CB in the first, but you can never have enough secondary depth. Revis is getting older, Marcus is an unknown on a full time basis.

    CB / offensive line and D-line are very deep this year in terms of good prospects.
     
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    Probably not. 4th round would be way too high for him.
     
  20. NCJetsfan

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    OK, so it was $47 million before Cro was cut. I stand corrected.

    You're wrong on the rest. Cro and Revis were definitely short term fixes, however, and Gilchrist could be as well. I'm not wrong about that. Cro was for a year or two. Revis for 2, maybe 3 years. Gilchrist's contract was a little more long term, but even it was designed so the Jets could cut bait with him after a couple of seasons. That isn't long term. With the way Revis' play is declining and with the cap space they'd gain (over $13 million) from cutting him following this season, they'd be idiots not to cut him following this season, because you know he'd never take a salary cut to help the team.

    Convenient that you just ignored my comments about the lack of depth and what would happen if Revis or Williams went down with injury.

    I didn't say anything about committing another $8-10 million into a corner. You're making stuff up now. I mentioned drafting a CB not signing one in FA. A draft pick would be cheap for 4-5 seasons and by that time for certain Revis and Walls would be gone, Skrine could be gone, and even Williams could be gone. Chances are that Milliner and McDougle could be gone after this season or maybe one of them this season.

    What's with lumping Pryor in with Wilson, Milliner and Cromartie as if he's as bad as they are?

    LOL You can't say what we done doing. You don't have access to Bowles and Mac's thinking or plan for the team, so quit stating stuff as if it's fact when it's just your opinion. When the team had taken a DL in the first round 3 or 4 out of the last 6 drafts, Mac took a DL in the first round last year didn't he? Just because you're tired of the team drafting CBs, doesn't mean that Mac and Bowles are or think it's not a necessity.
     
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