Resigning Fitz

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  1. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    I always assumed you were vegan.
     
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  2. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    better thread for this thought:

    Macc should try and get Fitz to sign a contract with performance incentives. That way if Father Time (or a much tougher schedule) catches up to him and he can't repeat his great '15 season (or if he loses his starting job in training camp), then the Jets are only on the hook for $6-$8M.

    On the other hand if Fitz lights it up again and plays great during the regular season (4000 yrds, 30 TDs, etc) he'd walk away with $10-$11M.

    If Fitz makes the playoffs and wins so many games, even the SB, he could walk away with $13-$15M.

    I just hate the thought of dumping tons of cap into Fitz knowing he could tank or the season gets away from us early.
     
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  3. Acad23

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    Are those "performance incentives" folded into the cap?
     
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  4. JStokes

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    It's funny that anyone, especially a supposed Jet fan, would whine about that.

    Well done Francis.

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  5. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    If we decide to resign Fitz it should be on the condition that he wears elevator shoes at least 3" hi to cut down on the blocked passes :mad:
     
  6. NoodleArm

    NoodleArm Well-Known Member

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    This is a really good question -- how incentive deals impact the cap?
     
  7. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Many incentives are classified as unlikely to be achieved. Super Bowl, All-Pro, statistical incentives above the player's proven levels to produce, etc. If the player hits those incentives they count against the following year's cap. You could in theory incentivize your entire squad for the Super Bowl and have a huge overhanging hit waiting for you in the following year.
     
  8. NoodleArm

    NoodleArm Well-Known Member

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    So let's say that Fitz signed a contract that had a 6M base and snap incentives (e.g. +2M for 50% of all O snaps, +3M for 75% of all O snaps). If he played 75% of all 2016 O snaps, then the 3M wouldn't count till FY2017?

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  9. Acad23

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    I'm not savvy at all when it comes to contracts and the cap.

    But there must be some rules and ramifications when it comes to performance incentives.

    What if a team was right up against the cap...would they have to sit a player if his incentive put them over?...or does the team need keep under the cap enough to cover these incentives?

    Or do they just do what the Pats do and pay Brady under the table?
     
  10. NCJetsfan

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    I think the easily achieved incentives must be accounted for under the cap for that year, but the difficult to meet incentives like winning MVP in the SB or being named All Pro, hit the cap the following season.
     
  11. Acad23

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    No wonder there's so few really good GM's...

    It's like juggling steak knives.

    Probs to Mac.
     
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  12. HomeoftheJets

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    With the BS NE pulls off with the cap, getting them for deflating footballs is like getting Al Capone for tax evasion.
     
  13. Acad23

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    I'd giggle if Kraft got syphillis.
     
  14. Catfish Billy

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    Bradford got offered between 12-15 million? Yeah, Fitz is getting 15
     
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    drugs are bad
     
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    Can't afford to keep the guy at that rate. Sorry. $10 mill a year should do it.
     
  17. Footballgod214

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    Good question. We often hear about different incentives in players contract. For example most players have a 'work out bonus'. If they work out, they get the jack. If no, they don't.

    Are all these incentives built into the cap? And what if the player doesn't make the incentive (like reaching the pro-bowl for an extra $M)? Does the jack go back in the cap-kitty?

    If anyone knows how incentives are handled relative to the overall cap space please share. thanks!
     
  18. NCJetsfan

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    Found it!

    http://russellstreetreport.com/salarycap/nfl-salary-cap-faqs/

    also at http://www.thefootballeducator.com/sports-negotiations-defining-nfl-contract-incentives/

     
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  19. Acad23

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    Nice work NC...

    That pretty much sums it up.
     
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