Do you think he will be an adequate starter going forward? Because all I've seen is a below average player being paid like an above average player.
We'll see . My feeling is that TB likes Williams a lot. What they do at the position will tell us a lot also. Like you said previously, there's a lot to do this off season. How they they approach it all will be interesting and tell us how they view certain players and their options
Yes because a corner on the wrong side of 30 with effort and injury concerns plus 300k+ per year child support payments will only get better.
The bold statements are odd considering he's played 23 games of which he started 11 for 2 different coaches that play predominantly man coverage. "Starting level of quality" is very subjective and may still be yet determined out Williams, but I think it's fair to say he's earned the opportunity to man Cro's vacant spot.
Good riddance. I didn't like the signing from the second it was announced other than the fact we could cut him and be completely free of his money. I loved Cro the first time around but this second stint was an abortion. He wasn't even one of the best three CBs on the roster yet played more than anyone not named Revis. We will be much much better off with Marcus Williams in his place and the money he would have been owed being used elsewhere.
This was an easy business decision. Now we let FA, the draft, and TC play out. If he signs somewhere else - fine. If we don't have the roster space and are covered at the position - fine. If injuries hurt our depth in TC or in-season, we can bring him back on a cheap deal. Since he knows the system, he could be a useful desperation signing.
Plus he's got like 14 kids in school iand his wife is on a first name basis with the cops in Madison NJ so I could see him not wanting to move. _
This took me back to those Bo Knows commercials. Cro knows getting burned on anything other than go patterns Cro knows to avoid tackles Cro knows how to get all matters of things knocked up in the butt Cro knows child support Cro don't know where his next paycheck is coming from (probably the same place as the last one)
You seem to be convinced that Williams has already demonstrated that he will be a good starter at the #2 Cb position. I would like to think so, but merely add I am not yet as optimistic as you. In that connection while his name has been mentioned as a possible replacement for Cro, it remains to be seen whether the FO will try and get someone else to compete for or be given that spot. If instead they do not make such an attempt, and ink Williams in, then we will know they share your optimism. But right now, we don't know that.
In fairness, while many are not totally convinced that Williams is the answer, is fair to say most people are certain that Cro is absolutely not the answer. Free agency will tell what the coaches are thinking. Call me sentimental, but still hoping Milliner puts his injuries behind him for good and becomes the guy. On a related note, I think this preseason will be "make or brake" for the likes of Milliner, McDougle and Amaro. They better come prepared to make a difference in the coaches eyes.
Dee Millner has shown nothing but the propensity for injury. Cro had a rough year but there were several games where he quietly took care of business. To say that Cro is not the answer and suggest that Millner is the answer is delusional.
Milliner showed flashes his rookie season. LA didn't suggest that Milliner is the answer. He said that he hopes that Milliner can put his injuries behind him and becomes the guy.
Well he can hope in one hand and crap in the other. I have a good guess which hand will fill up first.
A lot of people aren't really getting the cap management aspect of Williams moving into the starting role. With Cro cut that leaves us with around $22-$24 million in space. Resign Wilk & Fitzpatrick and all of our cap space is gone. The cap hits for our defensive backs are as follows: CB Darrelle Revis $17,000,000 CB Antonio Cromartie $8,000,000 CB Buster Skrine $7,750,000 FS Marcus Gilchrist $5,625,000 CB Dee Milliner $4,028,424 SS Calvin Pryor $2,335,433 CB Dexter McDougle $764,719 CB Marcus Williams $600,000 SS Dion Bailey $525,000 SS Ronald Martin $525,000 Total: $47,153,576 Subtract Cromartie and that total is down to $39,153,576. Because of how poorly we have drafted we HAVE to cut our losses in some places and start players we have on the roster at certain spots. I'm a lot more comfortable starting Williams at corner than I am with Calvin Pace at SOLB, Brent Qvale at LT or RT, Bilal Powell to shouldering 300 touches, Geno starting another game for this franchise or another year of ripping my hair out watching Demario Davis try to make a tackle. Williams will be fine at corner. He's not all world, but he's proven enough to this point to be an NFL starter, even if he ends up being slightly below average which I highly doubt. You don't luck your way into 6 picks when you play 250 snaps all year. We have $40 million out of $155 million tied into one position group. That's fucking horrible for a group that didn't dominate the league. If we spend anymore on defensive backs I'm going to be rather furious.
How soon they forget. Two years ago we had the worst secondary in the NFL. There is a reason our GM spent all of that money on the players we have.
Excellent post. In addition AA is a FA, and even though he was on IR last season and didn't get to show Bowles what he could do, I would imagine that the Jets probably have some interest in keeping him. I think he fits that kind of hybrid safety role that Buchanon filled in AZ for Bowles.
No one's forgetting anything. That was a necessity last season to bring us some respectability and to try to stabilize the D. Elevating Williams is not gonna undo that.
One of the reason any secondaries sucks is because the pass rush is non existent. I'd rather improve the pass rush before we pour a third of our available cap space into defensive backs. I was against giving big money to corners then and I'm against it now. Receivers are always going to find a way to get open if the quarterback has time. We had one of the worst secondaries in the league because we had horrible safety play with a coach that forced zone corners with limited man coverage skills to cover receivers by themselves. $40 million is enough. We have a good #1 corner, a good slot corner and good safety play. The 7 in the box need work along with the offensive line before we allocate more resources to the god damn defensive backfield. Btw Bowles' forte is supposed to be defensive backs as he was one and has came up through the league coaching them. He shouldn't need that much money tied into them to put forth a formidable unit.
