He was active for every game this year. Looked to be the 3rd tackle. The Jets must like him because they kept him around. Jets have had pretty good success with late draft picks or free agents, Ryan Young and Austin Howard for example. Could he start for Breno?
Is that pronounced Kv-ah-vale or Kah-vale? Brett Farve's election to the HoF makes the question relevant.
Yeah, I'm not counting on it, but it's a good thought... He was a UDFA from the previous regime and has established himself with the new one as well, so clearly he has something going for him. He was getting some first team reps in camp last year I know. The guy could prove us wrong, but I wonder how much worse he could be than Breno. With the cap space this team has and the need to get younger at many positions, I'd ideally like to see this guy and a rookie draft choice compete at RT along with a much cheaper veteran option. Believe they'd save 5m by designating him as a post-June 1st cut
That's hard to say. He must have shown something, since the Jets were giving him a lot of 1st team reps at RG hoping he could win the spot. Then again, he may have simply been the best of a sorry lot of OG prospects for RG. I'm not sure how many, if any, reps he got at RT. Again, he may have simply been the cheapest and best option they had for depth at RT. Although Winters may have slid out to RT if Breno had been injured and Qvale may have played at RG.
Maccagnan mentioned in his state of the Jets presser his plan for the o-line is to get some young players later in the draft and let them develop. So....maybe that's exactly what he's doing with Qvavle. A young player Macc is developing and doesn't expect him to be a pro-bowler from day one. Macc might also be developing Qvavle because Qvavle was the only big fatties sitting around with nothing to do and could easily be replaced with yet another big fattie from the draft. Really hard to tell when these guys don't get many snaps.
That's a pretty big gamble to take, lets just keep on moving guys through the assembly line and hope they develope.
yes sir it is, but a gamble GMs have to take 'somewhere' on the roster to stay under the cap. Successful teams tend to have 6-8 VERY GOOD game changing players that are all on their rookie contracts. Teams need players like Russell Wilson winning SBs wile making $187K pre season. GMs are under tremendous pressure to stock and then re-stock the team every season with game changers (from the draft) that practically play for free for 4-5 years. And the O-Line is no different. GMs should draft AT LEAST one offensive lineman EVERY DRAFT and let him percolate a few years while making his way into the starting lineup. As a group, the O-Line represents the single biggest commitment a team must make to players, contracts, cap space, etc. Feed the pig ever year.
The problem with hoping your late round OL turns into a serviceable player is that, If you draft poorly you could end up where the jets were with ducasse, winters, Wesley Johnson. Other than Aboushi, they have not done a good job of either drafting or developing any cheap O linemen. Definitley agree with you about having good cheap players, but we don't have any depth on the Oline. I also think the style of offense that the jets play makes it a little harder to get a guy to develope, because they are a pass first team, it's probably harder to find a guy who is going to turn into a good pass blocker, versus a guy who can run block. But like you said, feed the pig!
What we know so far about him: He has too many consonants in his surname. He couldn't beat out Winters or Breno last season, so he's not exactly a world beater. He does have good size, and according to reports, a bit of a nasty streak, so hopefully he can continue to improve.
not really...he's a developing player, and to expect a developing player to beat out your starter is a nice lofty goal but not a fair measurement of success.
Ducasse wasn't a "cheap" draft pick. He was a second round pick wasn't he? The other thing is that the players and draft to which you are referring were drafted by Tanny and Idzik and were supposed to be "developed" by Rex's CS, which was a joke. Hopefully Mac, the new scouting/personnel team, and Bowles' CS will do a MUCH better job than their predecessors.
Career backup, probably. He didn't show anything in camp and in the regular season the one time I did notice him was on special teams (extra point) when he got pancaked by a safety trying to block the XP attempt. Doubt he'll stick around another year, we need better guys at tackle. None of our backups have a single start under their belt.
Your correct, he was touted as a great prospect at OG. I trust that Mac will do a better job selecting players, but the jury is still out on Bowles developing players. I'm not anti Bowles, but he hesitated to play Mauldin for a long time during last year even though his play on the field proved otherwise.
I agree that the jury is still out on Bowles and his CS when it comes to player development. If I'm not mistaken, Bowles and his CS went with veterans over rookies in every instance. The only reason Williams saw as much playing time as he did is because Richardson was on suspension, although Williams was good enough, he still would have seen some time. IMO that isn't so unusual. Most HCs, not to mention rookie HCs, tend to go with veterans at first figuring they won't make dumb mistakes, and their experience will help the team more than youthful energy will. Parcells was notorious for being hesitant to play rookies, and I think he is one of Bowles' mentors, so it's not so surprising that Bowles may have been hesitant to go with rookies early. I think the fact that the Jets were really trying to improve on the 4-12 record of the previous season had an impact on that as well. I think also since the Jets were in the process of evaluating their roster and working so many new pieces in, was a factor. Last, but not least, OLB is one of the harder positions for rookies to come in, start immediately and play well. Their responsibilities are more complex, and if they make a mistake, it can cost their team a loss. In addition, Mauldin was said to be a little raw. I'm fairly certain that even though he showed some flashes early, that the CS had good reason for taking things slowly with him. Another important factor is that many coaches base who starts and how much players play on how they practice. We have no idea how Mauldin practiced last season. Whereas he showed promise when he did get on the field, those may have been certain plays or situations that he was good in, but there may very well have been others where he struggled. Still another factor is that we know that Bowles likes to vary lineups and alignments based on the opponents and match ups. He may have believed that Pace or Coples gave him more favorable matchups than Mauldin early on for any number of reasons, not the least of which is that Mauldin was still learning the D and adjusting to the speed of the NFL. It will be interesting to see how Bowles and his staff handle the rookies this season, and what veterans are retained. For instance, if Pace isn't re-signed and no other veteran FA OLB is signed, then Mauldin will have to start at one OLB spot and either Catapano or a rookie (if they draft one) will have to start at the other. I hope that as he settles in, he will be less hesitant (if he truly was) to start and play rookies more.
Perfect timing. Last night on Rotoworld; NFL draft insider Tony Pauline hears the Jets "really like" third-year OL Brent Qvale. Pauline is largely a draft guru, but he also gets on-point NFL scoops from time to time. Qvale, 25 in March, stands 6-foot-6, 318 and has the athletic makeup of a right tackle. The Jets badly need to upgrade on RT Breno Giacomini. Source: TFY Draft Insider Feb 10 - 9:13 PM
You don't hear much, but what you hear suggests the Jets like Qvale. I don't put much stock in his not beating out Breno. I have no data but just a recollection that Breno got worse as the season went on, and meanwhile Qvale was being developed. Perhaps they did not see having him replace Breno in time. We'll see what they do in camp. In any event they will go BPA for a lineman if one is available. Replacing Breno is not the only issue.
