I recommend actually doing some research. Now you are just blowing chunks. We are going to just end our conversation here if that's where it's going.
Michigan State has won 6 national titles. None of them in the last 4 years. What heights are we talking about? _
You can dig all you want. He appears outwardly to be an arrogant douchebag. Archie Griffin says hi. And when they went up against each other--Petty against a great defense and Cook against an awful defense--Petty was the better passer, better player by far. _
Not in the BCS era. Last national championship was in the 1960s. That's like saying Otto Graham is the greatest winning QB in SB history
I don't need to dig anymore, I saw the bowl game, and I've seen both of their respective careers. It's not hard to put up Heisman numbers in a 1 read spread offense, of course it's going to make Petty look better. At the end of the day, Cook made some bad throws, BUT he led his team down the field to win the game. That's how you respond when things aren't going the way they are planned, that's one of the qualities that's great about Cook the prospect, he doesn't back down when facing adversity, no doubt about it.
He almost threw 2 pics to lose the game on the last drive. That's like saying the Pats didn't back down last year against Seattle, except in reality Pete Carroll saved their ass. _
you skipped over my post but then write this. So I know you saw what I wrote. But you just ignoring it. So I make an off the cuff remark regarding someone else "at least he can be a homer w/out making 10 thousand word posts" which prompts you to send me a several paragraph long (oh the irony) private message bashing my intelligence for not being able to comprehend your posts or have in depth discussions. Well you got what you wanted, I actually bothered to read and reply to some of your shitty posts and you keep ignoring it, you can't handle it when you get called out on your bullshit. You're one of the worst posters on here, almost troll-like. You regurgitate the same thoughts that could be said in a sentence or two with paragraph upon paragraph, you spend several posts per thread saying the same thing, you hatefully attack anyone with a different opinion than you, and worst of all you sit on a high horse and act like the morality police chief. Almost as bad is that all your draft opinions seemed to be just parroting what you hear on ESPN or post in here from users that you like. Edit : (not worth a new post) clearly I'm on ignore or he's pretending I am. So this fuckin guy sends me douche PM's whining about how I don't read his posts. Then when I read his posts he puts me on ignore. What a wimpy putz.
No he didn't, he overthrew the receivers. At the end of the day, who threw the game winning TD? What QB drove their respective team down the field? That's what it comes down to really, the play was executed. We sit here and praise Fitzpatrick for throwing 31 TDs, but we know the defenders dropped a lot of interceptions this year. I guess Fitz is awful and we shouldn't bring him back. Eli Manning has the most dropped interceptions in the history of the NFL, but he's a hero for winning those 2 SBs, and he's going to the HOF. Not saying this is the career path of Cook, but the point is valid.
You're saying Cook outplayed Petty in that game because he "led" then down the field to score which is laughable. Petty was the far superior player, and but for some close INTs on that last drive, the game was over and Baylor wins. He was awful on that last drive. Has nothing to do with the number of dropped passes--it has do do with specifically him looking like crap on that last drive and winning in spite of him. I'll take Petty, you can keep Cook. _
1 yard = 0.914 meters. 300 yards = 274 meters. Fail!!! Sorry for busting your chops Stokes. Please don't be mad. You are my QB guru come draft time
I actually never said that, you are saying that not me. Cook definitely the better QB prospect. He wasn't awful at the end because he drove them down the field and threw the game winning TD, all of this while facing adversity. Cook isn't new to these situations, he's very good under pressure. We can agree to disagree on that, you can have Petty ... meanwhile I can have both QBs and make a more accurate decision based on a competition between the two. Geno will be out the door. I feel the same way to an extent about Wentz too, I wouldn't mind having him as a Jet - but I think certain players need to be off the board first.
Being flat footed is coachable. I don't think Cook is. That's the issue. Hey, I could be wrong. If the Jets draft Cook, I SURE hope that you are right and I am wrong, and if so, I'll be all too happy to eat crow. I'm sorry, but I just don't like him and I don't see why you do. With the talent around Cook , the team should have risen to heights it never had before. Regarding Geno, you completely misunderstood my intent. Perhaps I wasn't clear. He would break Geno's interception records with the Jets (in a bad way) if he came to the NE and didn't learn to step into this throws and drive the ball with his legs and body torque instead of just arm. His arm is strong enough to get the job done with proper mechanics, but it isn't a cannon.
That alone isn't enough. I saw that game. I may be mistaken, but I think one of those was because the ball bounced off a receiver's hands and up into the air. The other I think was an inerrant throw by Wentz. The other thing to consider is that he had been out injured for something like 6 games, and it was questionable until the last minute whether he would even be able to play. He either had had NO practice or only a couple of practices to shake the rust off before the game. Even with that, he looked like the real deal. He made throws that Cook could only have wet dreams about making. He's twice the athlete Cook is. He has a cannon yet can throw the ball with touch. Wentz is the far superior QB. The only issues with him are that he only started for 1 1/2 seasons and the level of competition. I think he was undefeated in his collegiate career and won 2 championships. How many did Cook win? Cook led his team to some comebacks, but how many big games did he come up small in? That didn't happen with Wentz.
He's a very polarizing prospect - to me it's an insult if you compare Cook to a Hackenberg like prospect. He's not a complete package, he needs coaching and a strong locker room. I don't think the Jets draft him that said. You don't want to reach for a player like Cook, but I think he has good potential and value in the late first / early 2nd round. I would rather look at one of those blue chip OT prospects, linebackers or edge rushers. Because Petty has a great arm, I want to see the vertical passing game and in order to do that we need to shore up that line.
On this we're in total agreement, my friend, and to answer your earlier question, yes, I just LOVE the off season! LOL NOT!!!! When does TC start? I'm not comparing Cook to Hackenberg. If Cook is coachable, isn't a douche, and fixes his footwork fundamentals, he could be a successful starting QB in the NFL. I just can't see it being with the Jets. We're in agreement that the OL needs to be upgraded (both starters and depth). I hope they've identified an OT prospect or two that are flying under the radar that they really like, and an OG or two wouldn't hurt as well.
First of all it was a joke. Division 2 is not on the metric system. Second, my use of the term "metres" should have tipped you off. Third, I was told there would be no math on this test. _
I'm not even a Cook fan, but alot of that applies to Wentz as well. I think Cook is medicore, but Wentz isn't miles better than any other of the top three or four prospects. People are overrating his most recent performance, which is a shame, because the expectations for him will be set too high and he'll liekly never leave up to the hype.
I could be wrong, but based on what little of Wentz I've seen, I disagree. I've seen Cook play fairly often, and imo his arm doesn't begin to compare with Wentz'. Wentz is bigger, stronger and more athletic as well. Goff is thin and doesn't have Wentz' arm. Lynch seems to choke a bit in big games, and I don't think he has Wentz' arm, either. I think if Wentz had played at MSU or Cal and he had anywhere near the same stats, he'd be the top pick hands down. Conversely, if Cook or Goff played at NDSU, they'd probably mid-to-low round draft picks.
There you go everyone. He saw one FCS champ game where the team that had won the previous 4 yrs in a row crushed it's opponent again and now is telling everyone that the QB who barely played that year is worth a top five pick. Literally, earlier in the thread he admitted this was the only game he saw Wentz play, and now he's acting like an authority on the matter. Laughable.
