Religion - a respectful discussion, for those interested

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  1. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    Ha Ha yes, what I should have said was "sex is an adult decision that only mature adults should make." Nicki Minaj was sadly another case of "babies having babies". Nobody under 21 is even close to being an adult in this day and age. (or the vast majority, I should say; there are always exceptions of course).

    As for contraception, how reliable are "rubbers", or "pulling out"? Does that always work? My point is that, when it fails, you have a baby, and all of the responsibilities that go with it. That's why you have to be ready for that possibility when you decide to have sexual intercourse with someone.

    And btw, the psychology of sex is not understood by enough people. Something happens in the brain when you engage in sex; "bonding chemicals" are released, which serve to enhance the intimate relationship between a man and a woman. It is nature's way of ensuring that the baby will be born into a family with a mother and father devoted to each other; in a loving relationship so that love can be shared with their baby. That's why when you "choke your chicken" or "beat your meat", you feel like crap afterwards; you are unnaturally "bonding with your hand". It sounds funny, but if you study the biology and psychology involved in the process, you will discover that's exactly what is happening.
     
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    Idk what kind of weird stuff you are into but I never feel like crap afterwards when I masterbate...

    also- I have personal issues with the other side of the bonding chemicals theory. Before I met my old lady on a few separate occasions in particular standout where I had a few drinks and nailed this cow I worked with....a questionably clean girl I met at the bar.. .and this one girl that had seemingly no issue with doing it in the bathroom of a christmas party. In all 3 examples I never felt a loving connection or a intimate bond. I felt more like crap afterwards than I did the other way around. So either you are full of shit or those chemicals don't work very well.
     
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    Who's to say it was the fertility pills that caused the woman to get pregnant? Fertility pills may increase the chances of conception, but they do not directly cause a pregnancy. If God didn't want that couple to have a baby at that time, no amount of fertility pills would change that. Conception is extremely unlikely, from a purely biological perspective; sperm cells encounter such a harsh journey through the female reproductive tract, which is why millions of them have to be released in each ejaculation to even have a small chance of one of them surviving to unite with an egg cell and cause fertilization. Of course, if you don't believe in God you can say it's all just probability. There have been several famous examples of women who were thought to be completely barren, and yet ended up having children. Again, if you don't believe in God, you can say that they were mistakenly called barren, when in fact they still had some capacity to reproduce.

    Back to the example you used, maybe the couple who took fertility pills could have had a baby without them, given more time? (or when God decided the time is right). As I said before, the chances are very slim for any couple, which is why it takes some couples years of trying to have a baby. If you believe in God, you will say that it is God's hand, working "behind the scenes", that determines whether a child is conceived, and the mix of DNA that child receives. If you don't believe in God, you will say that it's just probability and blind chance. But I see no inconsistency in the example you gave, other than maybe lack of faith on the part of the couple.
     
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    Ok, that's a good point and leads to a key part of that phenomenon. Every guy I've talked to about this, guys who are very promiscuous and have had many sex partners...they all have told me that they have felt more of a bond with their first partner, when they lost their virginity, than with any of the women who followed. And that's consistent with the science. For some reason, there is more of a bonding effect the first time; either more chemicals are released, or they have a greater effect the first time, I'm not sure the exact mechanism there, but when you study the science of bonding chemicals, it matches exactly with what any guy will tell you, it's always best the first time. So, with each successive partner, the bonding effect gets weaker and weaker; that's why studies show that getting divorced often leads to additional divorces, and those who did not sleep around before getting married are likely to enjoy a much better marriage with a much smaller chance of divorce.
     
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    this is a cute story totally rooted in fantasy.

    by the way. everyone who ever experiments with drugs says the same thing. The first time they smoked marijuana was always the best. The first time they blew a line of coke was always the best. Each subsequent time the experience got less and less special. maybe these bonding chemicals from God exist in drug use too? we are supposed to use our one true drug love.. or maybe not.

    in other words, the first time you do something ever is always going to feel unique/special/different than any of the other times. Basically you are full of it
     
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    ok truth, here's my beliefs wrapped up in a single and easy presentation, i totally believe something created this universe and planet.
    but it is not the god in the bible, that god is so man made its embarrassing. Yahweh the old testament god, that psychotic fraud of the desert, he couldnt create a single
    radish, he speaks with the voice of scared men. tribal desert and cave dwelling men who were scared of knowledge, scared of thunder and lightning, who thought the world was inhabited by demons and goblins, and needed to control the thoughts of others. his need to be worshipped, and his quickness to violence shows how profoundly stupid he is, it has our fingerprints all over it, as do all the major organized relgions. something created this whole show but for me it certainly wasnt him.
    his voice is not of a loving and all encompassing creator, he's against creativity, he's jealous, he's crude, he likes to use violence, hes useless, hes worn out his welcome and i cant wait for people to wisen up and see this.
    He needs to go..............

    and for backup to this, go read leviticus or deuteronomy, or any other writings , its all devoid of anything remotely spiritual
     
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    Or rooted in immaturity.

    I've had many sex partners and whether I've had an emotional bond with any particular woman is based upon the woman and her personality and her body and prowess and NOTHING to do with whether it was my first, second, 20th or last partner.

    That's simply imbecilic and has NOTHING to do with science.

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    I'm pretty sure the God of the Catholic Church beat the crap out of Yahweh so now he's the bestest.

    It's science.

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    "I'm not sure the exact mechanism there, but when you study the science"
     
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    Not sure why folks who don't have even a rudimentary understanding of science continue to bring it up.

    As if saying "science" somehow brings validity to flawed opinions.

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    "science" is a very loose term these days. Truth is just falling in line with the political landscape of our country where people come up with whatever nonsense they want no matter their cause. If some guy, somewhere, had that opinion before them; its science
     
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    And it's so fucking stupid to say that first time sex is scientifically proven to have the most emotional bond.

    I remember as a fumbling 10th grader the bond was decidedly not as special as later dalliances and was far from being the best.

    It literally got better each time thereafter the more experiences I had.

    THAT'S science.

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    Funny thing is, my daughter is getting married in May and she is signing up now to go through that absolute sham called Pre-Cana so she can get married in a Catholic Church.

    The last institution I want to take guidance from on marriage is the fucking Catholic Church.

    But you gotta do it. Hell, I did back in 1985.

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    Pre-shama.

    hey congrats on your daughter getting married, but thats gonna be a cashectomy isnt it Stokes?
    a total removal of all monies from the patient. and since you're the father of the bride, that makes you the patient haa haa
     
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    Couldn't be happier to do it. Great great kid. Marrying an awesome kid even though he's a Colts fan!

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    cool! i love good news! always have
     
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    BULLSHIT! The only "bonding chemicals" that work are things like SuperGlue.
     
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    Except, of course, when a ten year old is forced to participate by the local parish priest. I think that's called a special dispensation - or maybe that's the "cooperating with god" part of your post, right Mr. T?
     
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    What the hell is this? Fantasy Freakin' Island?
     
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    Science, schmience!
     
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