I don't think so either, Jets have no linebackers that can cover. I've been hoping the Jets would draft a blue chip prospect at LB for some time now. Hasn't happened, maybe we finally look to address that position. Regardless of any formation, it needs an overhaul, the strength of the 3-4 is the linebackers and that's the weakest core on defense. So I see no reason to run a base 3-4 the majority of the time. Like I mentioned before, the Jets run plenty of 4 man fronts, Bowles said this a while back. It looks like a 3-4 pre-snap, but it's really a defense that uses 4 man fronts. Bowles called it a "Quasi 4-3" or whatever. Bowles likes to run the 4 man fronts a lot, so this whole idea of us staying with the 3-4 isn't true at all. Here's the link - http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...atility-plays-big-role-jets-article-1.2483320 Bowles wants the flexibility to run whatever formation he wants, so the personnel has to match that. Need more speed at the linebacker position. On paper, we have 3-4 lineman, but they do so much more than a normal 3-4 DE. Heck, I don't even call them 3-4 DEs anymore, I just call them d-lineman. Replace Snacks, with Simon or someone else and they can also use 4 man fronts with Wilk and Sheldon inside to off-set the loss of Snacks. We ain't forgetting about the 4-3 anytime soon. 3-4 is overrated anyway in my personal opinion, especially when you have a NT that can't rush the passer. Oh and I already mentioned the linebackers.
Again, there is no true base defense with Bowles. One week he will run the 3-4, another week he will run the 4-3. He has done this numerous times. And dude, Wilk has dominated on a 4 man front as a 4-3LE, 4-3RE, or DT. Leonard Williams has as well. Sheldon has as well. Wilk for his size is a match-up versatile nightmare. All 3 of these guys can play in ANY formation. Mauldin can rush the passer, and I think the Jets should look for another speed rusher as well. Not saying Wilk should be moved to the 4-3 DE permanently, but if the match-up allows it, then heck you do it. This idea of the Jets always running a 3-4 is not true. I'm not saying scrap the 3-4, but you need to consider personnel. Now, if the Jets had 4 LBs worth a damn, I wouldn't be posting this ...
OMG, that would be amazing having Navarro Bowman behind our DL!!! We probably couldn't afford him however.
Bowles likes to vary fronts, but I think the main reason he goes with 4-man fronts is to generate more pass rush since we don't have the speedy LBs who can generate pressure.
We also have a NT that can't rush the passer for shit. So that's 2 crucial positions that makes the 3-4 go. Tough to find a NT that can rush the passer in this league, tough to find 3-4 linebackers that can rush the passer. 3rd down, it was 4 man fronts all day long and I liked it ... just need a linebacker that can move from sideline to sideline.
What's so great about stay puft marshmallow man? He had Jay Ratliff playing NT in Dallas. Jay Ratliff could rush the passer. Could Snacks? Nah. We also don't have Von Miller, and D-Ware. Broncos are STACKED. Jets have a long way to go to get to that level IMO.
That's why I don't think Snacks is as critical as some posters here do. He's a two-down NT who's great at stopping the run. Big deal. What great RBs do we have to face in the AFC? Is the NFL a rushing league or a passing league? It's a passing league. The teams that win consistently these days are the teams that can throw the ball and that can pressure others who do.
So you watched Jay Ratliff but STILL don't understand how Phillips 3-4 differs from F/B 3-4. Kudos to you.
With Snacks playing those two downs, opposing teams are trying to convert on third and long instead of moving the chains.
Great point. I also think we have to keep 3 out of the 4 we currently have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Allen Robinson had 3 catches for 50 yards ON revis. And one was for 30 yards after the play broke down... AR15 just made a great play on the ball ..every stat by the oppositions #1 WR isn't always on Revis. If anything the Texans and Bills games were the only two where Revis got got. Still the bbest MAN corner left.
That's true, but we don't know that they wouldn't still be trying to convert third and long with Deon Simon or someone else at NT. The other thing is that few teams run it on both 1st and 2nd down consistently. They'll often mix in a pass on one, if not both of those downs. With an NT that can push the pocket more and pressure the QB, maybe he throws an interception on 2nd down.
Look, I know you're using hyperbole to make your point. I do, we all do it at times. No one's (least of all me) saying that we should let all of our yount talent walk out the door or let 3 or our 4 DL studs leave. I'm just saying that we can't afford 4. Three may be doable, 2 certainly should be. Mac & Bowles have to decide which one of the four is more important in the grand scheme of things, which one they can afford to lose and still keep the topflight DL, and which one they're not going to be to afford under the salary cap. The decisions may not line up easily, and then they have to choose between the lesser of evils. That's not desirable, but it's the nature of today's NFL.
I am just going by the fundamentals and the pieces that usually make a 3-4 a success. I don't see how comparing Phillips defense to Bowles defense [in which he doesn't even RUN a true 3-4 to begin with] makes your point valid. Wade Phillips is overrated anyway, stay puft marshmallow man. Jay Ratliff was a 3-4 NT that was very good at rushing the passer. We do not have a NT that can play on 3rd down. This is about the Jets, not Wade Phillips anyway. You play to your personnel, that's what Bowles does best. Exactly, the Patriots don't care about Snacks because they'll just have Brady drop back 60 freaking times. I would easily sacrifice some of our "all time great run defense" for more pass rush productivity. Jetsvilma's topic in the NFL forum, there was less than 10, 1000 yard rushers this year. Ivory led the AFC
Bowles runs every defense ... based on his opponent.. he's been doing it. 4-3 , 3-4, 2-4-5- u name it he does it.
I think we do. You don't replace the best run stopper in the entire NFL with a late round scrub and expect that things will magically work out.
