Not interested in draft picks for Mo. If they turn out to be Coples type guys it'd be the worst trade in history. Unless somebody offers an impact player around age 25 I'll pass. Lock Mo up, whatever it takes. We play with 4 linemen most of the time anyway. If Snacks walks we're left with Mo, Sheldon & Leonard. So essentially we're missing one more guy. I don't think it's worth it. Lock Mo up, sign a veteran pass rusher, draft an ILB in the first two rounds, draft a tackle or sign a FA OT (Osemele) and we're good to go.
OR - we could use one of our blue chip players to obtain a franchise QB, which is the most important position on the field and haven't had in ages. Great D-Lineman are highly sought after and I would only give them up to get a QB. Use them as a chip to draft a great QB or lure someone away from their team. That would have a much bigger impact on the Jets than a linebacker, which could be had in the draft.
Who would that someone be? You really think somebody is going to give up a young franchise QB for a DE?
What would you rather have...Mo, Geno at QB, and lose Snacks and several starters and have to replace them with UDFAs, or trade Mo for a 1st round pick, re-sign Fitz, keep Snacks, be able to sign a couple of good FAs , and keep our own FAs that we want to keep? It may come down to that. Mac isn't to blame for this mess. Tanny, Idzik and Rex are. If you rent your billboard, make sure you get your facts right and blame the right people while you're ranting and raving.
You're not being realistic. If you get your way and they lock Mo up, you'd better be prepared for the consequences and not gripe when we lose Snacks and several other starters instead, and possibly aren't able to sign any other FAs, and depending upon what Fitz wants, may wind up with Geno starting again.
Which blue chip player would that be? The only player with any real trade value is Mo. Mangold, Brick, Marshall, Revis, and Harris are all too old. Pryor hasn't done enough yet. Decker isn't good enough to bring back a lot in trade. Richardson probably wouldn't bring much back because of his character concerns. Who else is there?
I'm not worried about losing Snacks one bit. We've seen Ellis in the past step in and play at the same level, probably even better. And that guy couldn't even make it as a backup with the Giants and, he's not playing well for the Vikings either. Then you had TJ Barnes who showed flashes as well. We'll be just fine, with or without Snacks. You plug another big run stuffer / 1 or 2 down player in the middle, you rotate Leonard, Mo and Sheldon inside the way we did last year anyway and you're good to go, Bowles can find that guy just like Rex did. I'm not interested in paying Snacks 7-8 mil. per year to do that. Everybody we plugged in there the past 5-10 years looked great, whether that's Pouha, Snacks, Ellis, Barnes and the list goes on. Hell, even an undersized Robertson with terrible knees held up in the middle and he was the worst dude you'd ever line up at NT. So I'll take those odds. I'm not taking those odds at cornerback or WR, or QB or LT where we hardly if ever find a capable player that wasn't drafted high or signed to a huge contract. That's where the money should go. Not Nose Tackle where we always seem to find some nobody making the veteran minimum to basically dominate. The Cardinals let their NT walk last offseason (Dan Williams). Very similar guy to Snacks who is probably shooting for that type of contract now. The Cards finished 13th against the run in '14 with him. Last year without Dan Williams they finished 6th. They replaced Dan Williams with a bunch of nobodies (undrafted guys who couldn't get a job elsewhere, a late round pick as well) and they still not only didn't get any worse, they improved big time. Let Snacks walk, cut Brick, sign Osemele from the Ravens to play LT and then bring in a decent pass rushing OLB with the money that's left. We're not fixing anything, any of our issues (lack or pass rush & pass protection are the two main things to fix) by re-signing Snacks.
This all the way. Snacks is by far the most expendable piece out of Mo, Sheldon and Leo. If the team is as high as they are on Deon Simon, then we'll be fine losing Snacks. You can't replace a player like Mo easily.
Snacks had an outstanding year this year, even better than last year. With him and Harris, teams had a very tough time trying to run up the middle (this flaw was why the Steelers beat us in the AFC Championship game recently). While Mo is very good we got some very good play from Mike Devito before the Chiefs stole him in free agency. Devito will be a free agent this year and should come at a much lower price than Mo. Plus dealing Mo could get us picks / players to boot. Before you say that Devito isn't half the player that Mo is, please note that Devito is starting for the Chiefs in the playoffs while Mo can watch the game from his TV at home.
Snacks is only one part of the equation. The Jets may already be planning to replace him with last year's 7th round pick Deon Simon. What about the rest? Would you be happy seeing Geno start again because we can't afford Fitz? Erin Henderson over Demario Davis would be a plus, but would you be happy with Taiwan Jones and a UDFA as the backups at ILB? Would you be happy with Pace back as the OLB starter opposite Catapano and Mauldin still coming off the bench? How about Powell, Stacy and a mid-round draft pick at RB and Colon and Winters at RG again? It could happen if Mo is re-signed. Having Mo, Richardson and Williams on the DL is not only a luxury, it's a detriment to the team because it's too much money tied up on the DL, thus preventing them from using that money to upgrade other areas of the team, amd when the DL is not the most important unit in our defense and they aren't generating the pressure on opposing QBs that Rex planned for them to have. It's akin to the situation several years ago where the Jets had way too much money tied up in the CB position and they had no money to improve other areas of the team that needed it. Mo's a great player, he has been a great citizen and teammate. He has probably been our best player. He is one of the few Jets I wanted the Jets to draft when he came out of college and they actually did. I love the guy, but I just don't see how we can afford to keep him. We need cap space. We need to improve other areas of our roster. He is our most marketable player, and for whom we can get the best return. It's a crummy situation to be in, but I see no other way to deal with this situation. Hey, if Mac can figure out a way to keep him, not lose other players they want to keep, and still make the necessary upgrades at OLB, RB, TE, and ILB the team needs, awesome. In that case, he ought to get the Executive of the Decade Award and go straight to the Hall of Fame. I just don't think that's possible. I want to see this team grow into a SB winner. I don't think it can with all the big salaries on the DL, and I'm not even thinking about Snacks. Mo, Richardson and Williams is too much. I'm not interested in tagging Mo this year, paying him a ton of money, losing other valuable players as a result, then seeing him walk next season and only get a 3rd round compensatory pick as a result. I'd rather trade him now and get at least a 1st round pick, if not multiple picks.
I'm not actually gonna get a billboard lol. But you make it seem impossible to re-sign Wilk and improve this team. There are several roster moves that are going to be made that will free up space for this team. It may not be as bleak as you think. I guess we will see what happens.
The chiefs defensive strength is not due to mike devito, it's because they have a pro bowl NT in Dantari Poe, he is the anchor on that line while their strength is in the LB group. The Jet fans who are ok with trading Mo realize that the LB group the jets have is not the answer, they have enough strength on the DL that they can afford to get rid of Mo and draft another young stud LB to complement Mauldin. And no, I don't want a 31 year old Mike Devito back on the Jets, we need to get younger not older.
I'm glad you're not going to get a billboard. LOL Listen, I hope I'm wrong that things aren't so bleak!!!! I'm no cap guru, but looking at how many FAs we have, what Mo is likely to command (if not demand), what Fitz is going to want, what our other FAs are going to want, looking at our team needs, and looking at the present cap hits for our various players, I just don't see a lot of wiggle room. I could be wrong, and again, I hope I am, because I'd love to keep Mo, but if we do, then at a minimum, Richardson has to go before he's due for a new contract, and probably Snacks too. IMO that's just too much tied up in a unit that while they're excellent at stopping the run, are only average or below in pressuring opposing QBs. We all know that the NFL is a passing league now and how often we've seen opposing QBs have all day to stand back there and pick us apart, sustaining drives on 3rd and long, and keeping our D on the field. That has to change.
It would be a mistake in terms of losing our best player and someone who was homegrown. In terms of fixing the problems with the team, fitting under the salary cap this season, and in the long term getting a better cap distribution away from the DL and to the LB corps, no it wouldn't be.
If we tag Mo this year he's not walking next year, that wouldn't make any sense. You either let him walk now or lock him up. You're painting this if we re-sign Mo we're doomed, this team is going to fall apart type picture. I really don't see it that way. I don't think re-signing Mo is going to affect anything as far as adding the guys we need to make a push next year. I'm not interested in any veteran, close to 30 year old ILB or RB. It's a waste of money. Go draft a RB in the 3rd or 4th round, re-sign Powell and you're good to go. Draft an ILB in round 1 or 2 and you're set there as well. TE? We're getting Amaro back, no need to bring in anybody there. We still have Enunwa and Kellen Davis, that's all you need in this offense. If Cumberland at TE was good enough last year I'd feel great about having Amaro out there next season, somebody you can actually throw the ball to once ever 12 games or so, unlike with Cumberland. Erin is a career backup. Fitz, if he wants to be back he better not ask for more than 7 mil. per year because he's not worth it. If he wants more let him go join one of those shitty teams like the Browns struggling to win a game, I'm sure he'll have fun doing that. I'm sure he's gonna be back and not ask for a crazy amount of money. All our needs can be filled via the draft, what do you need all this cap room for? Who do you want to go after? Besides, our D-Line makes no money. Sheldon is on his rookie deal, so is Leonard. That's it. We don't have anybody else. So Mo would be the first and only guy to be compensated like a Pro Bowler. Go look at Buffalo, they have 4 guys that make Mo type money.
lmao are you kidding? Newflash, Devito has 5 career sacks. This is insanely hilarious. To even compare the 2? You should be ashamed of yourself.
