the bolded tells me everything i need to know. you are clueless to anything East of the East River.. i wonder how people from the boroughs or LI make that journey to work in Manhattan every day. seems like some journey lol all joking aside, the public transportation to Nassau Coliseum wasn't good. they would have had to address that is the Isles stayed (although i'm a Rangers fan, i would rather they had improved that and stayed) the public transportation from Queens to E Rutherford is also horrible though. almost have to drive imo, and it takes forever. it's felt like away games since they left in 84.. i feel bad for Charger fans if they do in fact move. i don't like it. i prefer the original AFL teams to stay put.
When people say.."Im going to New York City" , they arent talking about Queens , Brooklyn or Long Island. I work with tons of people that live in Long Island..and on average it takes them an hour to get into Midtown. Where it takes me half the time from North Jersey. So in that aspect , yes it is a journey. Bottom line if you think Nassau County LI holds the same weight as midtown Manhattan , which is my original and only point on the Isles , then you are lost. If it was , a new arena for them in Long Island would've never even been an issue. You think the Rangers or Knicks will ever be in relocation talks if they decide to get rid of MSG? Even the Devils didnt have trouble getting new arena talks set up and actually could've moved to a number of cities in North Jersey before settling on Newark.
i'm busting your balls..., i'm not even an Isles fan. but you are off base, especially with what you consider NYC (not the term 'the city' but what is considered NYC). the Isles didn't move off LI because of weight. lol. Nassau County is in a financial mess, and people refused to have their already outrageous property taxes raised any further. all proposals were voted down. Wang couldn't get any public funding, and ran into red tape at every stop. his preference was to keep them right where they were. how do you explain the Jets leaving Queens, or the Giants leaving? they were NYC teams which relocated. did those boroughs not have any weight either? it's about money and politician, and public money in NYC only get rolled out for baseball teams, and in LI it apparently won't get rolled out for any team.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-la-plaschke-20160113-column.html Interesting article. Felt it was very well written.
I consider NYC what it is. But Long Island is far. Atleast farther than people think it is. And that was really my only opinion on it. And Im very aware of the Isles mess in LI. It went on for a long time. And I think that the citizens not wanting their property taxes raised only supports my opinion. New Yorkers know that they will be paying a lot for living. They go to boroughs like LI to save money. But they are still living in New York City, technically. To then turn around and say they wont support a new arena being built shows how far from Manhattan economically it really is. Imagine Manahttan residents coming out against a new Rangers/Knicks arena..just wouldn't happen in my opinion. And thats the difference for me. But Wang is/was a horrible owner. Like the Wilpons are with the Mets. NHL should've stepped in years ago and stripped the team from him. Which in turn would probably have them playing in Kansas City or Quebec right now.
Irish, your worldview is so very NJ. that was my point. we've gone off topic enough. come across the East River some time and enjoy the rest of NYC. or maybe drive into LI and see how people there are 'saving money'.
I certainly did not mean to suggest the Jets are going to move to St. Louis or san Diego. I merely meant that with the departures of their teams those cities can be safely assumed to want to have an NFL team going forward.
Politics aside, I do consider southeast New Hampshire and northeast Connecticut to be part of the Boston metro area. People commute into the city from suburbs in those areas. I know having gotten caught in rush hour traffic on a work trip to Manchester once, at the wrong time of day. Heh.
Can't argue that point. That whole corridor from Manchester down to Burlington MA is a nightmare, especially once you cross over into Mass, as they haven't widened the highway like NH did. My dad lived along that corridor back when I'd have to take him to Boston for treatments, so I know. If he had an appointment, I'd consider the whole day shot regardless of what time we were coming/going.
The test balloon markets right now are London and Toronto. If one of the area teams were to move to one of those places we'd see a big push for a franchise at a new stadium in Brooklyn or maybe Queens is my guess. That's probably as close to Long Island as a team will get, since getting in from Southern Connecticut and North Jersey wouldn't be impossible and would be much easier from Long Island than getting to the current stadium is. I don't think the Jets or Giants are going anywhere though. The money is too good in the NYC area to make a move to London a good idea, let alone to Toronto. It would take a major premium on the current franchise value to make it worthwhile for the current ownership of either team to want to sell out. If somebody in London came calling with $3B, well that would just be unfortunate for whichever fan base got shafted.
It would be great to see some of those soccer/rugby style fights in a nfl stadium. Let Roger deal with that.
Jaguars make more sense,Is there even another Jacksonville franchise in any other sport?I don't recall there being another
heh, they first moved back in the AFL days. Chief were born in Texas. Oilers should've never moved though.
I agree that it sucks for San Diego fans... but a lot of people don't remember that the Chargers actually played in LA first.
