They need to pay Mo. Otherwise we will likely lose him to FA and get nothing in return. Sheldon is expendible because of his off field issues that could lead to more suspensions. IMO, Jets should try to trade him in the off season for a franchise TE or maybe even a top linebacker.
Mo has to be the answer now, it's such a good problem to have Sheldon and Leonard too... Teams can't run on us period and along with Snacks we have the best D-Line in the league. I don't know whos gonna be the guy to leave out of that group but hopefully we get something for him.
Mo may want more but the Packers just gave us a market comprable: Packers signed DE Mike Daniels to a four-year, $42 million extension through 2019. The deal includes a $12 million signing bonus and $22 million in the first 15 months. Daniels has recorded just four sacks this season, but he is a consistent disruptive force on the defensive line who lives in the opposing backfield. The deal deservedly makes Daniels the third-highest paid 3-4 defensive end in the league. Only 26, Daniels should still be near his prime when he is eligible for free agency again in 2020.
Was just reading up on the Mike Daniels signing and really believe the Jets can fit something similar into their cap for Mo. Sheldon has been a stud, but Goodell still hasn't passed judgement on his driving incident this year. Also, I think we'd all like to see 1 or 2 trouble-free offseasons from Sheldon before considering him for a big contract.
It will require more $$$ than that. Maybe another 8 to 10M and we should have Mo locked up. Mo is a far superior player than Daniels. Gotta use the Cameron Jordan deal as the benchmark.
If we don't want to break up the band, Mo may need to take a Daniels level deal for us to be able to keep the other guys.
I think it's inevitable. Best thing is to keep the best players and look to replace some via the draft.
I wouldn't give either "Suh" money, but just speaking on who I'd rather sign longterm, it's Mo. He's been great this year and has been a consistent force since he was drafted. Sheldon is also great, but especially with some of his off-field behavior, I'd feel much better about Mo going forward. I'd be happy with Mo and Snacks, who they also need to sign by the way, longterm.
Mo seems to be getting better each week this year -- 7 sacks in his last 5 games. He is quietly putting up career numbers this season. Dude is an absolute beast and needs to be signed.
Wilkerson rose to the occasion like All-Pro type players do. Aside from pre-seaon grumblings, we never really heard complaints out of the Wilkerson camp. Currently, he is 1.5 sacks behind Watt and 2.0 sacks behind the league leader. Let's get him signed long term.
Wow, the voting sure has changed since Mo now has 10 sacks on the season. Prior to this thread being bumped, Sheldon was winning. Though neither should get Suh money.
I would sign Mo because he has been a great player and he is straight class about how he conducts himself and this contract situation. Next year we should let Cromartie go or restructure and do the same with Ferguson who is taking way too much cap space. That would give us a lot more options to sign these guys.
Cromartie makes a mistake here and there but is earning his money. If Mo wants more than $10 mil per year I would move on.
How about NEITHER? No player other than a franchise QB deserves Suh money. Suh doesn't deserve Suh money. Got that?
If it were that easy it would've been done by now. He will finish with comparable stats if not better stays than JJ Watt this season on a higher ranked defense. Why wouldn't he want a comparable contract? I think yall are crazy in believing a 5 or 6 year deal for $60 million is something he's going to accept. There would be no reason why the deal wasn't finished before training camp started if that were the case. Those are contracts similar to what Heyward from the Steelers and Calais Campbell from Arizona got. Look back at the production. Neither has double digit sack years in their career. Mo is putting up elite edge rusher numbers from the 3-4 end spot in the base defense regardless of how much he moves around.
You're absolutely crazy in trading an All-Pro defensive end for a "franchise tightend." Look at what happened to the Seahawks when they traded a key member of their line for a tightend. Unless it's Gronk you're not making that deal.
And even with Gronk, you don't know how he'd do with another QB. I thought Graham was going to beast in Seattle, but he hadn't (at least till he got hurt for the year).
I didn't mean it would be a straight up one for one deal, unless it was Gronk, but the chance of that happening is pretty low. Draft picks would probably play into it as well. Richardson's future is a ? right now. If a suspension is announced his value will plummet. I'd rather pay Mo, trade Richarson and keep Williams. The time might not be here yet, but down the road the Jets simply can't afford to keep them all unless they cut half the offense. Imagine Richardson getting suspended for a year and then during his comeback has a major injury. He might never be the same guy again. Richardson would have almost no value and chances are he walks when his contract is up or he gets cut and the Jets get nothing. I'd be happy with a deal that helps brings an elite TE, an elite linebacker or very good QB. The Jets front line is deeper than the Seahawks', they don't need 4 pro bowlers on the D line, although it's nice. I think having a single good TE would have a bigger impact on the team as a whole, than having 3 probowl defensive linesmen instead of 2. Just my opinion, of course. Richardson's a great athlete, but I'm still sour on him over the whole driving 140 with a kid in the car and weed. Mo is a class act in comparison and has already proven himself. Richardson still needs to prove he isn't a liability off the field. If I'm the Jets brass, Richardson is the last guy I pay.
Richardson's off the field issues is precisely the reason you resign Wilk let Richardson walk in a couple years and never look back. Not to mention that despite what we thought (including myself) Wilkerson is the better player.
I agree, but wouldn't you rather get some kind of value for Richardson instead of just letting him walk? I feel the biggest mistake that many teams make nowadays is not getting value for their good players before they become FAs.
