Do people really believe the NFL fixes games?

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  1. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

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    Then there must be a virus in the computer.
     
  2. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    These examples below are pretty obvious.......I mean NOBODY can be this stupid in real life.

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  3. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    How can anyone really suspect the NFL of fixing games? I mean, they can't even fix the lousy officiating and other problems in the game. How could they be smart enough to fix games?
     
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    Geno007 Well-Known Member

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    Where those dumb? Yes they where... but I guess Geno the only guy who does dumb ass things?
     
  5. Pocket Jet

    Pocket Jet Well-Known Member

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    The officials and Goodell meet each Tuesday morning at the grassy knoll.
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Fixed! (no pun intended) :)
     
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  7. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    It's definitely impossible for NFL refs to fix a game for one team to win and another team to lose.

    It's absolutely easy for them to use multiple factors to push a game toward the result they are told to favor.

    But not even a tenth as easy as it is for NBA refs to do it.

    Do you want to know more?
     
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    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    Never, not the NFL. Every other sport, every other business. But not the NFL.
     
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    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    duplicate
     
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  10. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Precisely who is it that is telling them who to favor and to what end?

    Yes, please tell us more. Especially how this vast underground has been kept secret for so long and how so many, even those who may have been disgruntled, have been silenced.
     
  11. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely.

    Not.

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  12. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Would you like me to include shady back room dealings and anonymous quotes?

    Stop being a dope.

    It's easy for referees to control the flow of a game with holding calls, PI calls, and false stats because there are easily a dozen or more of each during a game that don't get called.

    All they have to do is selectively call which ones will kill a drive, make a drive more successful, or keep a game close.

    You're not stupid, although you play one on TV. How many holding calls have you seen in one continuous drive where you thought something was being missed?

    People are naive when they say that the rulebook is too big.

    The most obvious and common calls in the playbook are only called a fraction of the time. You think those refs were really fighting for full time? Lol. They were fighting for a kickback.
     
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  13. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    I guess the point is--who is the Grand Wizard of Oz behind the curtain? Is it really Goodell? Does he have an anti-competition committee? Is it someone below Goodell and he has no idea it's going on?

    Is he deciding on his own who should win or lose?

    Is he consulting with some of the owners? All of them? Only one of them?

    Is he consulting with the networks? Is there a cabal figuring this out on a week to week basis?

    And how does it go down, exactly?

    Does HE call the head of all refs and set the plan in motion?

    Does he just call the crew chief on a particular game?

    What happens the next week when he wants a result with a different crew?

    Basically all of the refs have to be in on it.

    These are professionals outside of reffing--judges and lawyers and bankers etc, while not the most scrupulous of people--they aren't throwing their real lives away to get caught in a massive cheating scandal.

    Because what you are positing is not a one-off happenstance but a massive scheme. That if it were to ever be discovered would scuttle a multi-billion $$ business forever.

    And no one has ever let out a peep about it?

    Like the 6 Moon Landings were all faked by the highest level of government and thousands of production people?

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  14. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You're a little too intelligent to play the Wizard of Oz theme.

    It's like saying John Gotti or Al Capone was the sole author of the organized crime of their time.

    Naive.

    Who would talk when they are becoming a millionaire?
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Let me go a bit further.

    The NFL, which is backed by 32 billionaires and easily 500 billion dollars of moving capital, is going to leave loose ends in the way it presents it's product?

    You've spent months trying to prove the Patriots are cheaters. The Pats don't have even a 10th of the infrastructure of the league.

    It is that the argument you are attempting to protect?
     
  16. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Whut?

    John Gotti and Al Capone were heads of major crime syndicates. They actually had capos and capo di tuti capos that created massive criminal enterprises.

    Gave no fucks who found out.

    You are not seriously comparing the mob to the NFL.

    Again, how was the fixing scandal orchestrated? Who directs who wins and who loses?

    Who call the refs--who have professional careers outside of the NFL?

    ALL the refs have to be on board for the scheme to work even a little bit.

    Common.

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  17. JStokes

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    I haven't tried to prove anything about the Pats--I have no inside info--I just firmly believe they cheat several ways.

    The fact that they are an independent entity and have a 10th of the infrastructure makes it so much easier for them to pull it off.

    The fewer involved, the more rogue, the better.

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  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Jesus, Mary and Joseph.

    Are you that dull? I used them as examples of blatant figureheads of past conspiracies that continued to get away with things because you were naming one single possible point of leadership like Goodell.

    If you can't figure out your stupid argument was being mocked, I don't know who can help you.

    There are 32 owners in the league just like there were many mob bosses responsible for the crimes Gotti and Capone got accused of.

    Yes, I am accusing them of organized crime, but of the kind that can be more easily be justified and explained away today but not so readily done 50 years from now.

    Go ahead and mock, you can't do it well enough anyway.
     
  19. bartscott

    bartscott Well-Known Member

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    Who is "they" that you speak of?


    So the owners are in on it? So Martha Ford was ok with 0-16? While Kraft got 16-0?

    Your cryptic vague conspiracy insinuations are absurd.
     
  20. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Wait... Didn't you just mock me for not having proof?

    What the fuck is your point?
     

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