The INT (or should have been) by Cro.

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    great post. yes. that's exactly how they should proceed going forward
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Cro actually did play a lot more press yesterday than he's played in any other game this season. I know, because I constantly watch him so I can call him a dumb piece of shit.

    He didn't do it well, but he did affect the routes of receivers on a number of plays and Tannehill threw away from him.
     
  3. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

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    Except of course the one year Revis wasn't here to begin with and Cro was dogmeat.
     
  4. forevercursed

    forevercursed Well-Known Member

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    It was a legit INT. I was watching from the stadium on the big board and you couldn't see the ball move. It looked like he legit had it all the way. I can see how the call on the field was incomplete. It looked incomplete all the way until they zoomed.
     
  5. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    I agree the replay was obvious that it was an interception. What a travesty.

    But... I do understand that if the replay is ambiguous, you have to have a ruling anyway, and so you go with what was ruled on the field. It makes no sense to do the opposite of what was ruled on the field if the replay is ambiguous.

    Now, how much deference should that original ruling get if the evidence is that such ruling was more likely than not wrong? None.

    That covers it.
     
  6. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    From what I remember the ball clearly touched the ground and Cromartie sort of left the ball a little bit out there to the point where you could assume that he didn't have full possession really, that the ball was pushed back into his palm when he fell down. I mean at least that's probably what they saw or were thinking. Otherwise it makes no sense to not rule it an interception. I thought it was an INT but I don't agree that it was so obvious. Whenever the ball touches the ground the refs usually rule it an incompletion (not a catch, not a fumble, not a pick, see Dez Bryant, Calvin Johnson rule etc.). At this point you have to catch a ball and run 99 yards before they rule it a catch. Like it has to be THAT obvious.
     
  7. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Mike Carey explained the word of the rule and it's demonstrating control and not losing control should the ball touch the ground.

    That's exactly what happened. He didn't "leave the ball a little bit out there."
     
  8. NYJETS4life24

    NYJETS4life24 Active Member

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    I don't get how it wasn't ruled and interception. There was no doubt in my mind he made that catch. A sick catch at that.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yup. If a person was able to slow time down to the speed of instant replay and secure a football in midair and keep control of it, they wouldn't have been able to do it better than Cro did, that was how fast, precise and deliberate his catching motion was.
     
  10. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Good question. The problem is that the NFL has no one to blame but themselves for the shit calls. Aren't they the only professional sports league that doesn't have full time referees, and instead uses amateurs who have other full time jobs? The NFL deserves to be excoriated for this. They need to hire good, young men who are athletic, and perhaps used to play the game themselves, and train them constantly. Some don't seem to know the rules, some seem blatantly biased, others just blind. IMO there has been some improvement, but it hasn't gone far enough. At least we don't see stupid refs just standing there in the way of WRs running their routes or getting run over by RBs as often as we used to.
     
  11. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Excellent post. He's terrible in press coverage because he's soft mentally and physically.
     
  12. jsyankees12

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    I don't have a clue how that wasn't an interception, I thought it was an obvious call. There's no real definition of what a catch is, it's just pretty arbitrary depending on the officiating crew. I thought Cro's "INT" was more of catch than Decker's catch last week to be honest. Both were catches however
     
  13. Sam Hammer

    Sam Hammer Well-Known Member

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    Why aren't the NFL rules experts used in a central replay hub instead of on air commentary during games? It seems like a huge waste to have the most knowledgeable refs do nothing at all that impacts the game. They are correct just about every time and the NFL should have Pereira and Carey doing that instead of silly useless commentary. By the current definition of a catch, the Cro pick should have counted.
     
  14. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    Cromartie? Press coverage was supposed to be his strength. What is there left if he can't even do that?
     
  15. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    It's confusing as well, but I often don't agree with what Mike Carey and the rest of the goon squad says.
     
  16. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Umm, do you even know how to tie your shoes? At what point in U.S. history was Antonio Cromartie ever listed for strength at press coverage?
     
  17. LAJet

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    Excellent response. As I see it, we have a multi billion dollar enterprise soon to go internationally, an empire that pays the Commish 40M a year, a money making machine that lives and dies by what the results on the field are, yet they treat the most critical position on that very field, the one responsible to insure compliance, fairness and accuracy of the results no different than the part time help that collects ticket stubs at the entrance. They are professionals that deserve to be supported, trained and provided with development tools and a career path.
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    DerpBallHawk is typically one of the stupidest people here
     
  19. Section 336

    Section 336 Well-Known Member

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    That was probably the worst non call on replay I have ever seen, if that is not a clear catch, I do not think anyone knows.

    What gets me is that a fucking RB can leap in mid air and stick his arm out and cross some imaginary plane of the goal line going up into infinity and have the fucking ball swiped out of his hands before he lands or hits anything, or never have a toenail of his body ever touch the endzone and its a TD, but we can't seem to figure out what control of the ball means.
     
  20. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    All replays should be sent to a help desk somewhere in India.
     
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