When has going on a free agent shopping spree ever worked? He should have made the hard call realizing they had to clean up a mess. See what you've got before you go spending. Now you have a very expensive secondary that is putting up numbers comparable to the dumpster fire from last season.
He had to spend. It wasn't a choice it was the rules. With that said he brought in most of the top options and left himself a few outs if they don't pay off.
I'm trying to be nice here but some of you really need to look at this team from the outside through they eyes of a discerning yet reasonable fan. Look man, what did you expect? The NY Jets were a bottom of the league, horrible team last season. Seriously, we fielded one of the worst offensive units in the NFL for the better part of a decade. You will not turn this garbage barge around in one or two seasons. This will take a couple seasons of good drafting and not getting bogged down in albatross contracts that hurt other skill positions. These types of, "the sky is falling blame somebody NOW" posts, to me anyway, show a lack of situational awareness and foresight. You should know what you have in the NY Jets by now and you should know what its going to take to fix it. We have already improved from last season and blaming/firing the FO and HC, as you suggested many times, like a hysterical whiner is something you and others need to get a handle on. I have some more news for you; chances are this team will not be much better next year either, so hang on baby, its going to be a long ride. Try to enjoy some of the GREAT players we have, and great football moments and friendship that comes with it. One day, hopefully soon, our beloved NY Jets will be an absolute powerhouse and with it a Superbowl will come.
Our secondary has a huge cap number for this year but when you break it down it really isn't that expensive. Cro and Gilchrist are basically on one year deals and Cro for sure will be gone after the year.
As I said at the time, this team wasted a ton of money on its defensive backfield. And I further stated that it was going to cost us a Pro-Bowl defensive lineman. For that, I blame Mac.
He did what he could as another poster posted this team was a mess and frankly still is... some of the hold over players take plays off, keep making the same dam mistakes - D Davis for one...missing assignments, etc., while others are totally ineffective as in both OLB.. WE bought into the hype @ 4-1 and when they played the way they did against NE well... However, as one poster pointed out ever team has injuries... BUT I would add ours really affected this teams performance... Colon is sorely missed (one penality after years of being a penalty machine shows it as coaching), with Mr. M being banged up and Winters and Mr G are weak.... in essences the OL is playing like crap and has been since NE. The D is overrated and has been.... AS Parcells use to say , you are what your record indicates. We will find out a lot about this coaching staff starting today.... IMHO after watching the team for 48 years I know a little about bad coaches....
I'm not sure if this is a serious post or not, but this is what needs to be done. Often players, especially veteran ones, can get caught up in a "culture of losing" that can affect the whole locker room. To me, it appears that's what's happened to the Jets. There doesn't seem to be any passion or anger among the players. There appears to be an attitude that it's "okay" to lose. When you start to hear the cliches like "we've got to stick together" and "we just have to put this loss behind us and prepare for next week" and "we just have to get better", you know the team is in trouble. I say start by getting rid of almost everyone including Mangold, Ferguson, even Wilkerson, Harris and Revis, etc. Stockpile some picks. Start all over again, bring in some new blood. Build anew around a promising young QB.
I am never in favor of giving CBs the store, but I think Revis is playing a little hurt. Saw him getting sideline treatment for that hamstring that bothered him during last week's game. He has been pooh-poohing hamstring woes all year. But I think he has them. Read some article about Ivory using acupuncture where Revis mentioned going for it too. He just does not look quick. He has never been the fastest guy on the field. I expect him to lose a step after years, but he looks like he is physically dragging to me. Just my opinion. I hated the Cro signing and said so, but it is a one year shot so I do not care. Signings that do not tie us to money long term are just shots in the dark and you have to take them when you are starting with nothing. Smith is a scared rabbit out there. Different than Steven Hill but still disturbing. I like Gilchrist. I like Leonard Williams. I like Pryor from last year now that he is in the right spot. Not crying about the way things are going. Just wondering why everyone (me included) thought this D line was going to be all that.
People need to be mindful of the difficulty in finding a good competent GM. The only blemish (if you really want to dig) is Cromartie & that was probably a Bowles recommendation. Revis Marshall Carpenter Fitzpatrick Ridley SKRINE!!!! Gilchrist Cromartie That's before we even begin to discuss the draft.
The D-line has been all that. The LB's have been the weak spot all year. Both Harris and Davis are good against the run (Harris is one of the best in the NFL at that) and weak against the pass. Davis has missed some open field tackles. You put a fast LB who can cover backs in the middle of this defense and the Jets are close to 2002 Bucs territory. Without that you've got a weakness in the middle of the field that makes the defensive line much less effective overall.
if you want to blame anyone, start with bowles. kept too many old, slow guys and non-perfomers. i would have cut pace, coples, both tes, and half the wideouts we started with. brought in flynn at qb when fitz was injured as a backup to geno. with all the rbs coming out of college, they could not a decent one to run back kicks and punts? as for ridley, that has not worked out at all.
The only guy the Jets kept who maybe was a mistake was Pace. You can't cut Coples going into this season unless he's garbage in camp and he wasn't. You can't cut TE's once Amaro went out. Who is going to play the position for you? Bowles did cut a bunch of Rex vets and projects and a few other guys got hurt and went on IR. The new regime had to do the homework and due diligence on who was salvageable from the last two regimes. That process takes time and a guy like Coples who is playing out of position in the first place with no space available in his true position is very hard to evaluate at first. The Coples evaluation took place in the season and clearly he failed the evaluation and Bowles and Maccagnan have moved on.
Barring clear, in the-moment, complete and utter travesties (read: Izdik 12 picks of ????) , it's tough evaluate a GM on a single draft/offseason, the sample size is just too small. Some years you get incredible need/value combinations based on where you're sitting in the draft order or can easily move there, others you can't. Same with FA. You need at least a 2-3 year window to really get a sense of things. Our talent pipeline has been drained dry over the years. It's going to take Mac a while to replenish it. And he's going to miss on some picks. Every GM and scouting department does. Some other GM is going to grab a great (insert position here) a round or a few picks after we take a guy who ends up being mediocre at the same position. But that happens to every GM and we can't wring our hands over every "but if only." The question is can he hit more than he misses, can he hit more than other GMs do, can he turn low picks into guys who are contributors if not full-time starters, etc; can he find the LB whose instincts and speed make up for lack of size, etc. It's easy to "hit" on Andrew Luck as a GM. It's much harder to find that future Pro Bowl Guard in the 4th round.
I dont think we should be rid of all the players you mentioned but that attitude of "okay to lose" etc is the excusitis of bad teams,..... agreed
He's been very good so far. This team has roster weaknesses but there were simply too many holes for one off-season to solve. Let's list some of his success fo far: Hit on a 1st rounder, signed a very good backup QB (who unfortunately is our #1 QB). One starting LB next year is a 3rd rounder from this past draft. Marshall has been very productive for a late round pick. There haven't been any games this season where the Jets looked like they didn't have the talent to win (which was definitely the case last year). Despite his recent success, I still think this team has too many holes to fill in one offseason. CB#2, QB, OL depth needed badly at multiple positions, RB, another LB. Tanny missed on a shit load of picks & it's gonna take multiple years to overcome that.
he also decided not to go with a infusing youth and depth into a team with no real shot at contention, and instead dumped tons of money into older/veteran players. everyone was trumpeing what a great job he did. when we dont know how good a job he did and wont know for several years. it isnt hard to take the BPA at #6 overall... i mean the QBs where gone, he didnt have a tough choice. and then had 50M to spend. not saying he did a bad job, but he went down a certain road. next year, when we have no replacement for fergeson and need to choose between keeping him or wilkerson or extending a very possible holdout in richardson is when things get interesting. he also hired bowles, so we will see the next 2-3 years how that goes
How was he going to infuse youth? He only had 6 draft picks to work with. He could have traded back in the first round to pick up some mid rounders, but he said that he explored that and the offers weren't even close to the value of just taking Williams.
