This all goes back to wasting draft pick on Geno, had Idzik not been a complete fuck we might have landed a decent QB last year like Bortles or Bridgewater. Idzik thought he was smarter than 31 other teams and that stupid pick set the franchise back at least 5 years with that pick. Unless Petty is the savior the Jets will not find a good QB to lead them to Super Bowl. The Jets will be too good to land a top QB this year and never be good enough to win a title. Essentially stuck in the middle or mediocrity.
It was a value pick. He was given a first round talent grade.... Which he has, just isnt consistent. I don't think its the drafting of the player thats hurt. I think its the way he was handled. Thats where idzik failed. Geno started way before he should have. Should have sat a year. You don't start a rookie qb with the lack of offensive talent this team had, and never do anything to address it. Total lack of addressing the offense in general has killed this team. Williams was a nice pick and is a gonna be a good player, but he was not an area of need that we needed to address and hasnt done a whole lot in the position as a rookie. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
Good points. I think the theory was to have an elite D. Then the journeyman QB would not have to play above his head. The D was fine for a few weeks but the holes keep popping up the last 5 weeks. Sorry, that is on the HC. Keep rolling Cromartie out there---that will convince the fans you are serious about winning. Ha. Demario Davis? every week he does something awful. And as far as yesterday was concerned, where was our All World D lineman? Their effort has not been what it needs to be as a defense, week in and week out..
i dont get the point of this thread. no jets fan, and no one in the jets front office expects fitz to be a long term solution. as far as turning the keys over to petty, thats tough to do since he is probably years away from being ready, and mac assembled an older team built to try and win now
Give Fitz a good O-Line and we're 7-3 at this point. When his running game goes for 20 yards and he has about 1.5 seconds to throw the ball, it won't change no matter who's under center next season.
If Fitz fails vs the Phins next week and we're 5-6 you bring in Geno to see what we have. Fitz is only throwing 0.01 less INT's per pass than Geno does. Cant make this stuff up. Geno is 24 Fitz is 35 making the same mistakes as Geno. Geno can't do much worse than Fitz is doing but he sure can do a hell of a lot better. Give him a chance with Decker and Marshall. We have to find out what we have in Geno now. This go as far as affecting what we do with Wilk. If Brees is available and we have no QB i'd much rather as much as i hate to say it let wilk walk and bring in Brees. But who knows maybe Geno shows he's worth keeping around.
He can't take snaps under center b/c of his thumb so he only hands it off out of shot gun.. which kills Ivory's purpose. Think about it we couldn't run since his thumb/mangold got hurt.
You're right, Ivory is a down hill runner that needs the ball at the LOS, not 7 yards back. That was the knock on Geno.....can only operate from the Gun. On a side note, someone on TV said Jonny Football in Cleveland has taken 100% of snaps from the gun. Not one single snap under center. Not one. They said Manzel simply can't take snaps under center, his footwork is terrible. So....it must be harder than we know to get a good 'under center' QB. I also noticed in our game against Brady he took about 100% of snaps from the gun. Almost never under center. Don't know if that was 'one game' because they never ran the ball anyway, or if it's the new 'thing'.
Maybe in Brady's case it was game planning because he knows what our d-line does to him. And adding Bowles's blitzing would've made his day probably AWFUL.. he's too slow now. It's sad that Geno can't even hand the ball off from undercenter but like you said it's obviously wayyyy more difficult than it seems lol.
I guess if the O-Lines gives way to the pass rush as fast as the QB is back peddling it's probably a lot harder for a good 3/5/7 step drop with a good pass coming out. Things probably won't get better until our men up front get better.
we need to dump Brick and his fat ass contract.. sign the best o-line man that's not a center.. and draft the best one too. maybe first two rounds.
If we do fire the coach after one year we deserve what happened after the Jets fired Pete Carroll after one year.
When the Jets were drafting D-Lineman, the Cowboys were drafting O-line with their first pick every year. Jets now have the best D-Line and the 'Boys now have the best O-Line. We play them in a few weeks, it should be fun to watch. But yes, it's time to start drafting O-Line talent sooner than the 5th round.
I wish fans would stop with the Petty nonsense. He was a 4th rounder for a reason. Which doesnt say much considering similar system QB's get taken higher cause the draft has become a pretty big joke in recent years. The odds that Petty ever becomes even an average starter for us are highly stacked against him.
Yeah, no.. i don't think getting our asses whooped in a prime time game by dallas will be that fun to watch lmao!
we'll never know until we see him out there. Joe Montana was a 3rd round pick. Not saying Petty=Montana but we'll never know with him holding a clipboard.
Well in the same way the draft is flawed these days with gadget QB's being selected high. It was flawed back then too. If a QB with Montana's skill set enterted the draft this year he'd be the 1st overall pick no questions asked. There's a reason why less and less QB's are being taken 1st overall the last few years. The position has gotten watered down. Im all for giving Petty a chance eventually. But this is a kid that wasnt even working with a full playbook in college. Baylor's offense is basically a freestyle. And that equals danger when only watching NFL play for 10 games. To me he is atleast 2 years away from being considered NFL ready. And even then its no guarantee his play will translate.
