BREAKING NEWS: Attacks in Paris, over 120 dead

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  1. HackettSuxTNG

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    One is history. One is today.
     
  2. Brook!

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    That's another thing that shows ISIS is not getting its reasoning from Quran. You can't touch Christians or Jews just because they refuse to convert to Islam.
     
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    I RARELY agree with Bill Maher on anything, but for those of you attempting to equate Islam with Christianity, I present this short video:

     
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    I love how all the right wingers here want to see this as purely or at best mostly an immigration problem.

    First of all let's acknowledge that the enemy is really a right wing, theocratic, authoritarian, anti-progressive, anti-liberal democracy movement. They are not liberals. They are not socialists. They are as much the opposite as they can be. They are yes way out there on the right side of the spectrum, and I won't here speculate how closer or far they are to some you people no doubt admire. But let's start here.

    Second, how do you feel about no gun control when the question becomes whether some American citizen who is suspected of sympathizing with ISIS wants to buy a bunch of guns? No background checks? No limits on what they can buy? Where they can go "open carry"?

    Third, is the US government supposed to help make you safe, or are you going to rely on private enterprise? Oh so now we just might need the federal government after all and have to pay for it and stop nonsense like we don't need the IRS and other deranged comments.

    Fourth, do we want to go it alone like W did in Iraq? Or do we go with allies?

    I can go on, but I expect you will continue this us them immigration bs.
     
  6. Sundayjack

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    How do you then reconcile 50,000 Turks booing and catcalling during a moment of silence for the Parisian victims, and then breaking out into a spontaneous chant of "Allahu Akbar!"

    Yes, all Muslims aren't card-carrying members of ISIS or Al Qaeda; but there seems to be pretty goddamn strong contingent of sympathizers who just aren't motivated enough to pick up a gun or expose themselves for the cause. Nor, by the way, are there very many actively participating in the anti-jihad movement.
     
  7. Big Blocker

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    Yes, that is the other thing. As I said Monday how does hat someone did hundreds of years ago justify murdering innocents today.

    Beyond that Islam can't defend itself by saying Christianity had problems before even if you accept their definitions and descriptions, because they can LEARN from history just as we did/have.
     
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    Love his use of the term soft bigotry of low expectations.
     
  9. Brook!

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    Those same Turks booed when 107 Kurdish were killed by an ISIS attack in Ankara. I told the same thing in my previous posts. At least 50% of Muslims don't think those killings are in Islam yet they still feel satisfaction when things get messy for European countries.
     
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    Actually I changed my mind, I'm gonna volunteer to take in a bunch of refugees. They have lots of skills I can use. They're great with a machete, they can handle it so many ways, and they're experts at explosives. So I'm gonna take out a huge loan and open up a farm or maybe a mine, I can't decide yet - so many activities. I'm not gonna let a few bad apples ruin it for me. That's like saying if one gumball in the machine was poison and would kill you that you wouldn't eat any of them. Gumballs are fucking delicious for like five seconds before they taste like rubber - worth it, I'll take my chances.
     
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    Satisfaction. Very neighborly of them. Let them be someone else's neighbor.
     
  13. HackettSuxTNG

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    Yet the religion that is the basis of their beliefs gets support from liberals unlike any other religion in the world.
     
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    Seems like many of you are hiding under your desks all day long.
     
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    How many more jihadists will be born if we deny these refugees? It would be a confirmation of the ideas that ISIS is trying to spread about the West
     
  16. Petrozza

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    It's not ISIS. The whole process began way before ISIS appeared in the news. The rise of ISIS just brought more attention to the problem of Muslim infestation of Europe. Radicals/jihadists/extremists/ISIS (whatever you wanna call them) can be killed but when there are more Muslims than non-Muslims in a country that was never a Muslim one before, it's all over....
     
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    Are you suggesting that ISIS will cease to exist if we DO take these refugees?
     
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    These children refugees, if they live to grow up, how many of them will harbor anger towards the West, especially knowing the alleged "greatest nation in the world" was indifferent to their suffering and wouldn't provide them haven? For those that are balanced between acceptance of the West or becoming an extremist, the US's decision will likely be the tipping point. Not to say that all of them won't feel this way, but many might
     
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    I'm suggesting ISIS will cease to grow even larger if we take in these refugees. The extremist ideology loses credibility when the US exhibits traits (compassion, empathy) that they aren't suppose to have. The jihadists believe the West is indifferent to the Muslim plight. What better way to show that than denying these refugees?
     
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    :) It won't matter if they have anger towards the West or not. If there are more of them than non-Muslims, everyone will end up living in a Muslim society. Like I said, I am not talking about the extremists here, I am talking about a complete cultural change that's eventually bound to happen considering their birth and immigration rates.
     
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