Leonard Williams Rest of the season.....

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by LongIslandBlitz, Nov 9, 2015.

  1. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2005
    Messages:
    15,220
    Likes Received:
    6,086
    Sack total is the best stat to rate a 3-4 D-Lineman.
     
  2. juss

    juss Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2015
    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    47
    Cant believe Im reading this, he's young and learning. His play hasnt been bad at all. Id be happy for his rookie season to just play some snaps in every game and use it as a learning experience.
     
  3. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,864
    Likes Received:
    643
    Leonard Williams has been awesome. He dominated the line of scrimmage in that Miami game in London. He hasn't had a ton of sacks, but thats not a good way to judge a player.
     
    IDFjet and JetFanInPA like this.
  4. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2005
    Messages:
    5,566
    Likes Received:
    2,075
    What source? His mom? Sheldon Richardson easily outplayed him in his rookie year. And you could argue that Mo was even better as a rookie.

    Leonard Williams is playing well, just as advertised. I think he'll be a perennial Pro Bowler down the road, but it's gonna take him a couple years.
     
  5. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2010
    Messages:
    6,998
    Likes Received:
    5,422
    Hey, it looks like we got value from a 1st round draft pick. Just be thankful, it's a rare occurrence with this team.
     
    IDFjet likes this.
  6. Ptflea2

    Ptflea2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2015
    Messages:
    1,622
    Likes Received:
    1,804
    Well, he did get half a sack against Jacksonville..........boom :)
     
  7. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,631
    Likes Received:
    10,895
    But that's not what people are saying here lol

    We all know he dominated in that game and looked excellent. The question is, where has he been lately? The past two games he has been non existent. And majority of people on here aren't judging him on sacks, but rather on his presence, which again, has been non existent
     
  8. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,320
    Likes Received:
    3,426
    I'm going to let him play out the rest of his rookie year before I pass full judgement. I have wondered the same thing a few times throughout the season while watching this D front. Mo is having a Pro Bowl caliber season so far. Sheldon looks like he's rounding right back into good form. I have noticed Leonard Williams push the opposing O line quite a bit so he's doing good there. He's young and a ton of upside. It's not like he's having an invisible rookie year like a Gholston or someone. He's looked very good in a few games and solid in a few others so I have no issue with him at this point. We are not talking about a Gholston, Robertson, Coples type first round bust here.
     
  9. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2012
    Messages:
    1,319
    Likes Received:
    256
    If Coples is a bust then what is Leo Williams? Coples rookie season he had 5.5 sacks and over 30 tackles, it's unlikely Leo Williams comes near that.

    Mo, Sheldon, and Revis are the only ones who made an impact right away out of the draft. That's pretty pathetic honestly. This is what you get when you insist on drafting BPA all the time instead of on need like offense. The last thing we needed was another defensive end, hell I would've put Coples back on the line assuming the weight and strength came up in the off season, and see if he can get pressure on the QB and skipped the Williams pick.
     
  10. Kris 15

    Kris 15 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    16,735
    Likes Received:
    1,499
    Done with him personally. I only needed 8 games.
     
  11. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2012
    Messages:
    1,319
    Likes Received:
    256
    What? I get saying give him time, but he's been awesome?
     
  12. Chadchrebet

    Chadchrebet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2014
    Messages:
    671
    Likes Received:
    257
    Check out JJ Watt's rookie season and then come talk to me. Defensive Lineman RARELY have an immediate impact, much less a DT. CAn't look at just the stats. He is part of a great line, and filled in nicely while Sheldon was out infact, that in itself is good enough for me. He made Richardson expendable.
     
  13. JETS1116

    JETS1116 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    1,165
    Likes Received:
    536
    At 20 years old and before you constantly are at bars, it's much easier to maintain endurance for sports. at 28 years old, it's getting brutal
     
    REVISion and Cidusii like this.
  14. NYJETS4life24

    NYJETS4life24 Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2012
    Messages:
    792
    Likes Received:
    202
     
  15. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2008
    Messages:
    27,721
    Likes Received:
    31,387
    Rd 1 williams Bust.
    Rd 2 smith bust

    Billboard time bitches
     
  16. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5,138
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    i have 0 concerns on williams. i think he has been the best player in our front 7 to be honest looking at the game son nfl rewind. im a ton more concerned about mo and shelly, who are getting killed in their 1 on 1 matchups. KILLED.
     
  17. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5,138
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    those guys arent doing there thing. our pass rush has been beyond pathetic
     
  18. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2007
    Messages:
    6,100
    Likes Received:
    2,222
    JJ Watt was a self made star, he came into the NFL with zero hype or expectation.

    Maybe it's me but I worry Williams might be miscast as a 3-4 end like John Abraham with Bill.
     
  19. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Messages:
    14,203
    Likes Received:
    10,165
    It's not all about sacks. the 1st 4 weeks he filled in for richardson, PFF had him ranked as the best rookie and as a top 5 d-lineman. He got a lot of QB pressures/hits and pushe dhis way into the backfield being disruptive
     
  20. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2008
    Messages:
    27,721
    Likes Received:
    31,387
    Pick 6th overall is expected to make an immediate impact
    Pick 11 overall no expectations
    Got it
     

Share This Page