Let's not forget he ran out of bounds to stop the clock instead of throwing it, so actually it does get dumber. OP I get it about Geno, he sucks!
Mistakes only count if Geno makes them. The INTs in the Browns and Eagles games were way worse than the one Geno threw, but hey. Not knowing to slide when you're well past the first down marker is really that much smarter than running out of bounds trying to make a play when you're down two fucking scores? The damn QB should have his eyes downfield the whole time in that situation.
I love how there is even an argument about whether Geno Smith is good or not. Or whether it's his fault or the fault of others. When you have a league with guys such as Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Tony Romo, Andrew Luck, Aaron Rodgers, etc., you just have to laugh at people arguing for Geno. How anyone with any form of a brain can seriously sit here and survey the entire NFL and put Geno Smith anywhere fuckin near these other QBs is beyond me. He's a loser. He's an absolute loser. He has no smarts for this game at this level and he is not a player meant to be in the NFL. And don't bring the argument stating that you are not putting him in that same league. Because in reality, you are. You are labeling him a starting QB of the NFL. Ben Roethlisberger, Russell Wilson, Andy Dalton. All of these guys are starting QBs. They bring wins to their teams. They thrive with the football and they lead an offense. Geno Smith doesn't belong in the category of QB in the NFL. He's a practice player. That's the most he'll ever be
Assuming he is healthy enough to play, Geno will be the starting QB, no way around it. Fitz is not playing with one hand, not possible for a QB, and Geno is still a better option over Bryce Petty who just started taking snaps under center a few months ago, or dumpster fire Matt Flynn who they'll likely sign. I'm getting behind Geno for this Jacksonville game, he'll have all week to take first team snaps, go over the game plan, and really prepare. Plus he has weapons this year, the last two years he had absolutely no one to throw to. If Geno melts down against Jacksonville then I'll say just toss Petty out there WTF is there to lose.
Besides his situational awareness gaffes, he did show some decent improvement. I really like how he ran to throw and showed patience here: And how he felt this rush without seeing it and extended the play to rip a touchdown (pass interference put the ball on the 1, led to TD): ^ better pocket presence than he ever showed in his first 2 years And this is a beauty of a touch throw 30 yards downfield: He wasn't all atrocious on Sunday. Like I've said, he's becoming increasingly bipolar. The physical part of his game is getting better while the situational part is getting worse. I've never seen him play with the kind of patience and feel for the rush that he did the other day, but he also took some sacks that I don't think he would've even taken last year. Was it just mental rustiness? Let's see how he plays while Fitz is out. I'm at least intrigued.
I was waiting for "Awareness awareness," but it didn't come. I appreciate the thoroughness and attention to detail, which is ironic given the lack of complexity and nuance exhibited by the subject of this piece.
It is amazing how everyone can evaluate with such certainty whether or not Geno has improved at all after 1 game, coming in relief after taking NO reps with the first team in practice, missing most of training camp, the preseason and hasn't played in a game in 10 months. I am not saying he is or he is not improved for sure, but the idea you can judge off of one game is ridiculous. Try evaluating Andrew Luck after last night (or even this season) - you would say that there are 25 better QB's in the league even though we all know that is not the case. My prediction is that Fitz will not see the field again this season because Geno will prove at the very minimum he is a better option than him.
Geno did miss some reads and wasn't perfect in the pocket, but he stood well in the pocket for the most part and navigated it for both downs and TDs. I think his accuracy and TDs reflect his pocket presence. Geno also threw on time for the most part. He played at a NFL QB level. I stand by my statement that it's better to have arm talent than game manager ability. Dalton has more arm talent than Fitz and more game management ability than Geno. Geno did take chances downfield. He ate the ball a few times trying to make a play. Not really, no. A sack is usually a punt and forces a team to march down a field way more often than an interception. There are QBs who win games by holding the ball by taking sacks but not by holding the ball and throwing interceptions. Big Ben does this. Like I said, we likely weren't coming back from 14 point deficit by throwing the ball away twice versus holding the ball and looking for a play. A teammate can't punch the QB. I don't Geno at all and I don't judge my QBs based on that kind of nonsense. In their post game interviews, Decker, Skrine and Marshall praised Geno for his QB play. That's enough support right there. He was a little skittish but stood in the pocket well at times and made plays to move the ball and get TDs. Geno made little plays that Fitz plays and bigger ones that Fitz cannot make. Stats can be misleading. Geno came in cold and hit some nice deep and intermediate balls that Fitz does not make. Geno's overall footwork was fine and didn't much affect his accuracy. It wasn't perfect but most 3rd year franchise QBs don't have perfect footwork. Even when Geno threw off his backfoot, he completed passes. With his normal footwork he completed passes on time, short, intermediate and deep, accurately. I think Bowles is just an defensive coach and Geno was in there cold so he took the punt. I see enough improvement in terms of footwork, pocket presence, scrambling, etc to say Geno can be a good QB. He played well yesterday outside of 2 sacks. That speaks to his improvement. Geno has notable 4th quarter comebacks so I don't see any legitimacy in people saying he folds and can't win in the 4th. He can and has. He almost put up another 7 points with Marshall in the dying seconds against Oakland.
Yup. From the Oakland game alone, there are examples of Geno showing notable improvements in 1) pocket presence (leading to big plays and TDs); 2) accuracy and timing (leading to 8 completions in a row until a drop downfield by Kerley); 3) footwork (see completions) and 4) touch (i.e. Marshall's big play).
Hey now...you left Tyrod Taylor, EJ Manuel, Brian Hoyer, Josh McCown, Matt Cassel, Nick Foles, Zach Mettenberger, Kirk Cousins, and Ryan Fitzpatrick off your starting QB list.
I mean for 2013 and 2014 he has 8 touchdowns to 18 interceptions in the second half of games. As far as throwing the ball away, don't you think it keeps your team in better to position to convert on the next play if you throw the ball away and can keep the down and distance to 2nd and 3rd and 6-9 vs. 3rd and 16 after a loss on a sack?
Yeah I'm not sure how one game under those circumstances, in which he actually had the team moving the ball pretty well through the air, can be a definitive "write-off" of a player. And as much fun as the 52-49 Giants-Saints shootout may have been, generally when one team's D gets shredded in a game, they lose badly. You don't see a lot of 37-34 shootouts in this league. It seems many fans were going to rip Geno unless he threw for 350 yards and 4 TDs and led us to a shootout win. I'm not sure why the goalpost was moved there for him in his first playing time off the bench. Let's see how he does this week against an inferior opponent where we should be able to run the ball and defend better. When you can do those things, 265 yards and 2 TDs looks pretty nice. Fitz was lauded all season for those types of games.
Great write up! You pretty much nailed it. I would just disagree with one point on his INT at the end of the half. I wouldn't label that a force into double coverage. Instead, I would call it a failure to look off the safety. He had the single high safety look. If he glanced to the right just once, that would have cause that little bit of hesitation he needed from the safety to drop that pass in the bucket. Instead, he eyed Marshall the whole time from the snap to the top of his drop. That mistake doesn't bother me too much because even the most seasoned vet is guilty on occasion of not looking off a safety and/or locking on to a WR. I will also add in defense of Geno that he generally makes the correct reads as in he usually throws the ball to the right guy; it's just that he does so slowly. By the time he pulls the trigger the window he thought he saw is often times closed or well on its way. He either does not trust what he sees and/or not quick of thought. Based on his other woes, I would venture to guess it's the latter. In contrast, Sanchez, as a Jet, tended to make a lot of poor reads. Remember those INTs where you would say to yourself "...why the f*ck is he throwing it there anyway?" However, he was decisive with those bad reads…LOL.
smith is a complete bust and there is a reason every team in the nfl passed over him at least once, he who was supposed to be a lock top 10 pick..it reminds me of Gholston and of course like then only the jets can see the value in players like that.
Love him or hate him Geno may be our starter for the next few games, instead of tearing him apart with the same old tired critiques about why he sucks maybe we should support the guy and rally behind him since he's part of OUR beloved team. Just sayin....
http://thejetsblog.com/nyjets/marshall-says-smith-deserves-a-second-chance/ when will brandon marshall get it about geno?
Behind Fitz, this was a confident team CS and fanbase I guess that even guys from Harvard make bad mistakes So yeah yo you go Geno make that W happen. But please run and throw the ball to the right goaline
