Religion - a respectful discussion, for those interested

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  1. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Well, I don't know about all of that, but anything that keeps the goddamn Irish and Haitians from multiplying like goddamn feral rabbits, I'm all for.
     
  2. JStokes

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    So this joker isn't even trying anymore.

    He's just trolling now quoting talking points from his church elders and hasn't refuted a single point in pages.

    Mods.

    It's time.

    Kill this abortion of a thread.

    Seriously, perform an abortion on it.

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  3. TommyJ

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    Truth, the concept of marriage was used to unite families and countries. it was a custom used for
    alliances, long before the supposed days of Jesus, it had very little or nothing to do with love.
     
  4. JStokes

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    But church elders are claiming it for themselves to further infect the minds of the weak sheep.

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    "Pure in Heart"

    Translation: allows Truth (shot down 'trying to take 2nd' back in the day) to feel better about himself ...



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  6. ChrebetCrunch

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    My parents still want to abort me.
     
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    I'd like abortion more if they raised the limit to 102 years old and I got to choose who was aborted.
     
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    I believe the guy is really sitting in a ratty overstuffed chair in his grandmother's basement and only throws these posts out here when the people who live behind the furnace won't talk to him.
     
  9. joe

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    Many "all wind and no action" types such as yourself lecture and debate and lecture only to gain more enemies than friends by preaching at a place not suited for the purpose.

    And it only reveals a show off rather than someone who truly serves the real purpose of God.

    Best to be humble and do your 'preaching' through good deeds, e.g. Mgr. Hugh O'Flaherty.
     
  10. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    If you want to understand why the Catholic Church is so popular worldwide, why so many people still call themselves Catholic today, over 2000 years since the Church's origin, you need only look at the Catechism. This is the official document of the church's teachings and practices. It explains everything you need to know about the Catholic Church, and it's available for free in an online version:

    http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-te...techism-of-the-catholic-church/epub/index.cfm

    Similar to a jigsaw puzzle, all of the pieces may not make sense to you individually, but when you read the whole thing, all of the pieces fit together beautifully, forming a complete picture of the reality of our shared human condition. It really is universal (the meaning of the word "Catholic"), and it applies equally well to people of all cultures, worldwide. That's why the Catholic Church is the largest organized religion in the world. There's a reason it's survived repeated persecutions from world leaders, and organized attempts by governments to eradicate it. It just works for people, in their everyday lives. When practiced faithfully, it gives people a beautiful and profound sense of meaning and love in their lives. It helps people make sense of suffering, and it helps them to "weather the storm" of life's struggles (disease, family struggles, etc). It enhances every aspect of life. I know this because I have personally experienced life first without the benefit of the Church, and then, thanks be to God!, a life transformed by the Church, and today I live with a profound sense of inner peace, joy (when I am close to God and avoiding sin), and a beautiful sense of life's meaning and purpose. Through all of my experiences in my 40+ years of life so far, I know that God exists, and I have experienced His transforming love in my life; I know the difference between a life lived practicing Catholicism, and one lived skeptically without those graces and benefits, and I am so grateful that I have found my way to the Truth!! It's not through my own doing, but with the help of God and the people in my life, the teachings of others, that I have found my way to the Church enjoyed by so many millions of people worldwide! :)
     
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    You are right about that, but who says I don't also try and serve people in my life offline? This thread is only a small part of what I try to do to share what I have learned. I try to stay humble, since without the help of God and other people in my life, I would be lost. In fact, I was lost, in my early to mid 20's I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life, no idea what career I wanted to pursue, not living my Catholic faith in any kind of real way, just going through the motions, and I was obviously not happy with my life. It was only through many struggles, and with the help of other people in my life, that I found my way to a true understanding and active participation in the Church, and at the same time found my way to my life's work in terms of my career. Today I work to help people in substance abuse recovery programs, and I find my work extremely fulfilling. I find good, humble people who have hit rock bottom, from mistakes they have made in their life, some of them served prison sentences, some of them from terrible family situations, but they have been humbled by these experiences and they are ready to start over, and receptive to learning a better way to live. Along with the medical aspect of recovery, they are encouraged to pursue a spirituality in their life; they are encouraged to read the Bible and other religious works to find a spirituality that will help them find order and structure in their lives. The "12 steps" of AA and NA employ spirituality in their programs, and although these treatment centers are secular, they offer church services, Bibles, and other religious resources to their patients because they know that religion works for people in their lives. It's backed by numerous scientific studies. Even if you think it's only a psychological effect, there is no doubt that spirituality and religion helps people in a very real way in their lives. If it didn't, these secular, non-religious organizations like Alcoholics Anonymous and Therapeutic Communities would not use them.
     
  12. Dierking

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    It's science.
     
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    Backed by numerous scientific studies.

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    I know this because I have personally experienced it.
     
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    Who are these Jehova's witnesses? They knocked my door on Friday and 2 old Turkish people gave me some documents about them. I told them I didn't really have anything to do with religion but they said all my pains will stop one day. I said I don't have any pain, they looked at my face meaningless. Anybody here is a witness to Jehova?
     
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    Did they give you a pamphlet with blue prints for a "clock"?
     
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    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    The Jehovah's Witnesses are the gateway to authentic personal freedom, and when you go there everyone gets a complimentary pearl of great price.
     
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    Brook! Soft Admin...2018 Friendliest Member Award Winner

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    I threw them away. Don't really remember much about them as I didn't look but it was a few pamphlets with some sad faces etc. What is weird is, these guys were old Turkish people who knew I was from Turkey and they sent people from Turkey to my door. What the heck?
     
  19. JStokes

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    Maybe they are your new "handlers" scoping you out under cover of JW, will probably contact you soon with a dead drop or cut out or some other espionage tradecraft.

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  20. Brook!

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    You and abyzmul. Sometimes I need google to understand what you mean.
     
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