Getting OL is a different story - and Jets should do very well to draft a few OLs every draft. [Which Macc didn't neglect btw. Jarvis Harrison is still with the Jets, last time I checked.]
thats a bit chicken and egg… You cant just ignore the offense because you're QB isn't all-world, in fact leaving ANY QB without proper support is a bad idea. Your QB could be Geno or it could be Luck, if your O-line cant stop a nosebleed, if your Receivers cant catch a cold, if your if they're running game cant sustain drives, you're offense isn't going to be great. You don't WANT you're QB to carry you on his shoulders through every game, no matter how much he can or cannot do it. Just draft BPA and let the chips fall where they may.
Carr was my pick, wanted him bad but i'm ecstatic that we got Petty. Right now Pryor is proving many wrong including myself.
It's hard to judge Carr at this point in his career because the Raider's defense has been pretty bad both seasons he's started. I'm guessing he's a journeyman in a few years after his first deal but it's possible he'll win enough with the Raiders to stick around.
Hahahahaa still can't admit you were wrong about Teddy and Carr. So sad. Yeah he's looking like a great young QB but he's going to be a journeyman. Do you even watch football? _
The only regret I have is not to have selected Mac the knife 3 years ago as the GM. We would be damn near SB bound with Teddy at the helm as QB by now. Having said that I always liked Pryor and though last year was an aberration by playing him out of position. I do like Milliner a lot too but he might end up proving me wrong, primarily due to injuries.
After NOT drafting offense for the last 7 years, you'd think your statement is true, but our O-Line CAN stop a nose bleed (Fitz sacked fewest times in NFL), we DO have a top NFL running game (hats off to the O-line again and to our RBs), and our WRs CAN catch a pass (see Marshalls 54 yarder to open the Miami game or Decker's several 20-30 yard bullets for TDs). Other than a franchise QB (which there hasn't been any), what offensive player would you have drafted in the first round that would 'transform' our team overnight? Anyone? Hello? I thought so.
I'm just saying we shouldn't refuse to draft offensive support high because we don't have a bonafide franchise QB. Like, oh we don't have a QB which means our offense should be neglected till we find a miracle worker who can carry us. Even if we only have a fitzpatrick at QB its never a bad idea to take a promising offensive player if he's the best available. It helps our current QB, it would help any QB in the future, so BPA all the way, right?
that said, Cooks vs Pryor is kind of a push, neither was cant miss in any way, it was really kind of subjective as to who the better pick could be on draft day. Now? Yeah, I think we made the right choice.
I always wanted Teddy, but I had long resigned myself to the reality that the Jets weren't interested in him by the time the draft rolled around. I didn't have a feeling one way or another about Carr. I liked (and defended) the Pryor pick at the time, so I never had anything to complain about. I'll be completely honest here, the only Idzik pick I didn't like at the time he made it was Milliner. I just hated, hated, hated the logic behind the pick. (i.e. "We just traded away a generational cornerback, so let's draft the best corner we can get our hands on, even though the odds that he will be anything close to what we just traded away are 1 in 100000000000000" )
ah so it was personal from your first comment. if you don't want to exchange ideas with me, that's fine. i won't be replying further. but the next time you call someone snarky or condescending, i suggest re-reading your own posts first
Pryor does have a lot of upside, but only as a SS.. i don't see his role as very rare or difficult to roster. if the draft was done again, Pryor would not be a first rounder. but then, you could certainly say the same about Cooks, so it's a good question and debate. in terms of Cooks, i'd play him on the outside but off the LOS. flanker... kicking Decker into the slot when Cooks is on. i'd also work him into returns, which the Saints haven't been doing this season. at this point, both guys are just upside i guess, as neither has really proven enough or warranted their selection.
I wanted the Jets to draft OBJ or Matthews prior to the draft. I was never a fan of Cooks because I didn't want a slot WR with the 18th pick.
Teddy Bridgewater has 2 TD passes in 4 games this year. He's got them in 115 passes, which is an insanely low 1.7% rate. For his career now he's thrown 16 TD passes in 517 attempts, which is a 3.1% rate, which is again really low. The Vikings are going to wind up looking for another QB fairly soon if the offense stays mired in the 20's again for another full season. Not that Bridgewater is necessarily bad but the Vikings offense has been very mediocre with him behind center. As a comparison: they went away from Christian Ponder after 2 and a half seasons of watching similar offensive production. Last year the limiting factors were no Adrian Peterson and WR's not living up to their contracts in Greg Jennings and Cordarelle Patterson. This year Peterson is back full speed and the Vikings went out and got Mike Wallace and the offense is still sputtering. Everybody is pointing at Patterson but the fingers will move to Bridgewater pretty soon if he doesn't start rocking and rolling with the NFL's best runningback and one of the best deep threats in Wallace.
You're gonna get attacked for this post because some people here think Teddy could have been the #1 overall pick in 2014... but you're right. He hasn't looked good at all this year. He didn't look fantastic last year either, but you at least thought he was going to improve.
I agree, especially with the O-line getting a bit older we should be on the look out for our next LT (at least). But it seems our last few GMs draft BPA in the 1st round, which has been D guys.
Pryor right now, if he can continue this level of play - he's going to get a reputation as a play-maker. Rex and Idzik thought he could play FS because of what he did in Louisville. Now at a more familiar position, he has forced a turnover in 2 of the 4 games. Tackling has been MUCH improved. Coverage needs work still, but he's no longer a liability out there any longer. I don't think I would take Cook over Pryor in a re-draft and I still think Pryor gets a first round grade. The only difference is maybe you take Ha Ha Clinton-Dix if you need a true cover free safety. Safeties are a lot more important in today's league ... look at the impact Kam has had with the Seahawks. I knew Idzik wouldn't draft a QB, so I was hoping for a wideout.
i was alright with drafting Pryor, as our secondary was as bare as it gets (and Martin was gone). was just very disappointed with his play and lack of versatility. hopefully you are right on him tho. it's already night and day improvement by moving him to a more instinctual role, and with that great supporting cast around him. i just need to see more big plays, and a little more in coverage before i'll completely buy in. rooting for him obviously...
