If you said to me at christmas last year that cromartie would be the weakness for us on defense this year I think my head would have exploded. Let that sink in for a moment if you agree...
Why would he fear losing a paycheck when his effort and physical play have declined every year since he gained the only real notoriety he's ever honestly gotten as an NFL player and kept getting paid? The fact is that he's actually been paid more as his effort has decreased. Think before you post.
There have been plenty of simple "I'd rather have Williams start over Cro" posts, none have bothered to try to figure out why a player with Antonio Cromartie's amazing physical abilities can play like such a passionless turd.
The only thing that will happen is Cro's fanbois will start a dozen threads about how great he is for one play in one game and completely ignore how he played the rest of the game.
he got cut after an injury hampered season, had a one year prove it deal in Arizona (that frankly should have happened in NY) where he had acceptable production for a 2nd CB and got a 7 million dollar deal for his efforts with no guarantees for the future. THATS the guy who is being rewarded for his supposed decreased effort? Get fuck outta here with this think before you post shit.
Waaah, poor Cro's "chronic" hip injury caused him to play with no effort at CB in 2013. I remember the guy returning a KR midseason that year and it looked like he had fucking rockets attached to his feet. Must have had a lapse in chronic injury that day. Couldn't have had anything to do with the fact that the Jets had just traded Revis and maybe in his empty head he figured he was the safe veteran alternative. Then he moves on to Arizona, and without treatment, has a Cro type season. Puts in marginal effort and drops a few highlight reel style plays to remind people of that one year in San Diego, amid a mostly pedestrian season. Then he somehow swindles his way back to this team, and more of the same. I'm guessing that if we didn't sign Revis, Cro would be experiencing some hip issues again, but he's got to raise his level of effort up to average now because he can't lose his job to undrafted backups. The guy has been a slouch for years. I'd tell you to wake up, but I'm guessing his baby mommas aren't the only ones getting the deep dick in the offseason.
wait, he puts in a marginal effort or pretends to be hurt when its convenient to him but manages to put up some highlight plays in the process… so he can earn the right be lazy later or some shit? You make it sound like he's purposely trying to suck, which is fucking nonsense even by its own realm of logic. Why wouldn't he just put his best effort 100% of the time in one spurt and earn a huge guaranteed deal? this conspiracy bullshit is complete nonsense you just grabbed out of your ass. Okay, alternate theory; maybe just maybe he's an average to above average corner who makes the occasional big play but often misreads WR's as his edge in coverage by way of his physical tools decline with time and he struggles to play technically sound coverage the way Revis could. Maybe he's a second class CB who occasionally proves his worth on and off the field with a valuable role as a stopgap veteran CB till a young outside CB proves their mettle. Maybe he can have good or bad seasons at any given time due to circumstances NOT based on stress over getting ahead just enough to earn a new deal over and over again so he can pay his baby mommas. Maybe he's good sometimes and just sucks other times with no convoluted agenda involved, and perhaps this thread sucks big balls like a suction cup stuck on the Unisphere.
hey, wait, I just remembered something, didn't he take LESS money to play here? I distinctly remember articles mentioning how he was convinced to take less guarantees. That would discredit this shit off the bat.
Oh, excuse me, how about a secret agenda or undisclosed plan. point being he's doing something in secret under the pretense of doing something else more acceptable, in this case apparently trying or caring or not trying or caring based on some weird plan to pay off his baby mommas that makes no sense. Conspiracy is just the first word to come to mind when I see a half baked premise where a convoluted plan is used for an end that could be more easily achieved by simpler means. I used the wrong word by its strictest definition so sue me. the point being that theres no ulterior motive leading to Cro's recent production based on fear of paying his baby momma's and children. The conclusion you've reached is coming from thin air. He's just and up and down player, get over it.
even with 12 kids, the 12 million he's made in the past 2 years is enough to support them for life. Lets say the average household has 3 kids and makes 100k a year SO if they had 12 kids they would have to make about 400k a year to support them. Thats 30 years it'll take for them to make what cro made in the past 2 years. he'll be fine
Okay - what most of you don't seem to understand is the difference between having a huge family, versus having a huge family with a dozen women across maybe ten states. Child support is based off of your income - not on the costs of raising a child. It's viewed that if you have X income, the child should get the lifestyle that goes along with that income level. They don't just add up the costs of food and diapers, that's not how it works. The more kids you have with women you're not married to, the higher percentage of your money has to go towards child support. Cro has to have legal teams in almost a dozen states, and keep in mind that the child support is not tax deductible. In other words- he's lucky if he gets 15% of his salary as take-home pay. Every time his income drops, his lawyers need to convince a judge to change his child support obligations, adding lots of legal expenses. Child support cannot be discharged through bankruptcy. So, I would agree that he's trying to gin up a media career after he's eventually forced out of the league in a few years. Trash talking OBJ, who is likely to start a feud back with him... and the Giants are opponents later this year... it sort of sounds like he wants to be in the headlines and keep his name circulating out there as much as possible. But I don't think it works. I mean, just look at Chad Ochocinco; he was as outlandish as you could be and it didn't translate into a media gig.
I, along with everyone else, have been really impressed with Marcus Williams. He has really strong man-to-man coverage skills. There is a reason, however, why we have to learn to live with Cro getting beat occassionally. Cro is our only defensive back that has any length to cover the bigger wr's. Length is something that is really valued in defensive backs.
Who the hell said it was secret? It's been obvious as hell to me from day one that he dogs it on a lot of plays and goes out of his way to avoid tackling or putting himself into harm's way. I haven't once in this thread tried to make it sound like that was a secret, that stuff is plain as the nose on your face. What I did was put a reason to it.
I'm still a little unclear as to the connection between his play and his children. I know you are saying he doesn't give effort, but why? What would that gain him?
In terms of Ochocinco, it's a lot easier to hide as a defensive back versus a receiver that isn't putting up numbers. It's obvious what Cromartie's agenda is, and the more he keeps his name alive the longer chance he has of hanging around this league. It's really a shame that he can't tackle my 70 year old grandmother because with his ability to jump routes he could probably be a successful safety as he loses speed. No team would risk starting him at free safety because as soon as a run or crossing route breaks to the second level he'd run away from the ball carrier. The original post makes some sense in that he may shy away from contact because he wants to keep himself and his paycheck healthy for as long as possible. The only flaw in the argument is that he's been this way his entire career and there's no way he was protecting his neck at 23-25 years old when he just hopped into the league. All in all, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in jail because of the back up of child support payments he misses when he's no longer playing. As you stated child support is percentage based. What the hell is he going to do when he has no income whatsoever for the first couple years he's out of the league and I highly doubt he gets a broadcasting job right away unless NFL network is looking for another moron to toss on the air. There was an article a while back on Michael Carter-Williams in the NBA hiring a financial advisor right away when he entered the league because he was deathly scared of going broke. It's amazing that more players don't do this and just proceed in living hood rich for the 6-14 years they play professional sports. Maybe the next generation is the first we see to actually protect their wealth. With all the statistics and documentaries like 30 for 30's "Broke" out there it amazes me that these guys don't realize the hard facts of being a 22 year old millionaire.
