The eye test is generally unreliable due to the beer quotient involved. You see what you're expecting to see only it is magnified by desperation and/or disgust.
this is what happens when the Jets become relevant again ... newbies w/ absolute no knowledge of Geno's past performances outside of 2 games in 2014.
Vinny was a game manager in 1998 who balanced a higher than expected risk of turning the ball over with an overwhelming ability to carry a team on his back. So was Jim Plunkett in his 2 Super Bowl seasons. So was Terry Bradshaw until late in his career. Look at the number of throws a QB makes and how that number varies from game to game. A guy who is always very high in passes is not a game manager for the most part (unless he's Rich Gannon with the Raiders). A guy who could throw anywhere from 20 to 50 passes a game is very likely a game manager. A guy who consistently throws 35-45 passes a game probably is not (unless he's Rich Gannon with the Raiders). The way I look at a game manager is that his passes tend to be average to low but rise dramatically when the situation calls for it. Vinny had 7 starts of his 13 in 1998 with less than 30 passes thrown. The Jets ran the ball more than they passed it in 9 of 13 starts often by a wide margin. We don't think of Vinny as a gamer manager in 1998 but that's all the Jets asked him to do and he had his greatest season ever and led the Jets to one of their greatest seasons also.
Vinnie, Plunkett and Bradshaw may indeed have been game managers, but they could make all the throws. I think we associate game management with physical limitations. It is not always true. It is about the QBs willingness to subjugate himself to a game plan and stick to it, until circumstances demand otherwise.
100% on this post. It's all about the QB's willingness to become the game manager. Vinny was a greater QB in the game manager role than in any other role in his career. As soon as the offense became centered around him in 2000 his play value declined.
Oh geezuz stop. All I heard at the end of 2013 was HE WAS THE TOP RATED QB AFTER PEYTON FREAKING MANNING THE LAST 4 GAME OF 2013!! Then he proceeded to shit the bed in 2014. But wait for it. HE WAS THE TOP RATED QB AFTER PEYTON FREAKING MANNING THE LAST 4 GAMES OF 2014!! Stop it already. When the season was long gone and all the pressure was off he played barely average those last 4 games with a massive outlier bringing up the average with a perfect game against a team that had checked out with its bags packed and their tee times set. You want to be an unabashed Geno homer and make excuses and defend him- have at it. Don't reply to my posts with utter nonsense. After 2103 his next year should have been a breakout year or at least some improvement. The dude had a 3-4 game stretch of some of the worst football ever culminating in a ZERO POINT ZERO. Stop. _
OK give me your game by game analysis if I'm that far off base....No excuses here either, he wasn't good last season but wasn't as bad as some people want to say. The 2 disaster games cloud things for some people Tell me what part of my post was nonsense? 3-4 game stretch? Please name that stretch......
But but but what about the perfect game?!? Yeah, against a team that had its heart ripped out the week before and were playing for a dead man walking with their bags packed for vacation. Geezuz fuck I HATE when Genobots bring that game up. How did Geno do in the first game against Miami when there was a semblance of a season left for both teams? Yeah, they don't want to bring that game up. _
Hey Geno fan, I'm not doing this now. It's been done before. Go make excuses and disect games where his pick 6s weren't his fault and how he didn't have Decker or before we got that POS from Seattle or when Kerley was hurt or with a bad OC or a bad coach or whatever deflection you want to use. You're a Geno fan, just like the Tebots before you, you will never acquiesce. _
And his All World QB had nothing to do with that?!? You think Rex would have done that with competent QB? Ever heard of cause and effect? Hahahaaaaa thanks for the laugh. _
Buried in an article from Manish Mehta of theNew York Daily News regarding Buffalo’s decision to claim IK Enemkpali on waivers is this gem: “Ryan believed in Smith despite all of the quarterback’s flaws. Shortly after getting the Bills job, he wondered out loud to friends whether the Jets would be open to trading Smith to Buffalo.” Or is that a lie?
Geno had his worst college game ever against Syracuse in the snow at Yankee Stadium....is that where the hate stems from? Just curious?
