Fitzs or Geno?

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Fitz or Geno

  1. Geno

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  2. Fitz

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  1. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    Is Geno Smith respected?

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    I'm not in the locker room locker room so I don't know. But if I have to conjecture I see no reason why he wouldn't be respected. Do everybody "like" him probably not, but once you're on that level there is a natural respect that players have among each other.
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    So yes I think he's respected.
     
  2. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Oh stop.

    Simple question.

    Simple answer.

    Yes or no.

    Not "no reason why he wouldn't be".

    Your opinion.

    Do you think Geno is respected in that locker room?

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  3. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    I answered the question.
     
  4. heartpumpsgreen

    heartpumpsgreen Active Member

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    Geno is only in his 3rd year it is not unreasonable to think he can show improvement, afterall he has shown plenty of positive flashes, just never sustained it. One thing is for sure, Geno throws a beautiful deep ball with the flick of the wrist.

    Another thing is for sure Ryan Fitz has a severe case of noodle arm, not to mention his deeper intermediate routes have no accuracy or timing. That "bomb" Ryan Fitz threw to Marshall to start the game. He wound up, and put every bit of juice to barely get that ball 50 yards in the air .. if that .. and it was a hanging duck. He also struck out several times on deep throws to Devin Smith in the Philly game when Smith had a step. I'm not even joking here ... Chad Pennington's deep ball was superior to Fitz' ... I'm not kidding. Go look at his Bomb to Santana Moss in the 04 wild card game vs SD. He even had a couple beautiful 50 yard bombs while in Miami. Ryan Fitzpatrick has a noodle arm, period.

    Now ... back to the issue. Should Geno be starting just bc he has a better arm? Absolutely not. JETS are 3-1 and like someone else said in terms of QBS on their upcoming schedule... not scaring anyone especially with our defense. Leave Fitz FOR NOW ..

    All that said, Fitz stays until he starts to give away games with bad play ... if he is a main cause of 2 Ls, especially consecutive ... get him out of there and SEE what we got in Geno. Bc does Geno have a higher ceiling? Absolutely. Come on ppl, he played extremely poorly at times, but he was no JaMarcus Russell ... he has shown flashes I could name a few games where he gave a decent amount of hope and his arm alone .... if he ever GETS IT ... his arm will add an element to this offense that we will never even be close to sniffing with Fitz at the helm.

    But arm strength does not win super bowls. Ask Joe Montana. However let's forget the notion that Fitz is a great game manager and makes heady decisions. That's crap too bc he constantly throws into double and triple coverage. It is true that he could have double the amount of INTS this year. He has been very fortunate.
    My final answer. Geno deserves a look when Fitz blows a couple games.

    Can we agree on that?

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  5. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    People who state this have been football fans for 5 minutes.

    In the last 30 years the average time a QB would ride the pine before getting a start would be, minimum, 3 years. MAYBE an injury start here or there...but not as an expected starter. So, when people make dumb ass comments like the one above bolded it makes me angry. Smith hasn't been in the league long enough to have satisfied that requirement and here you are spouting that he has no upside...lol...and you are not alone. Really...5 guys in a parking lot...how come they aren't signed to the team? I've about had it with stupid comments like this. He may not be Andrew Luck but he sure as hell isn't Jamarcus Russell. After what I saw in the Dolphins game it's time to start Smith after the bye.

    From an offensive standpoint we are lucky as HELL it isn't more ugly with the nasty crusty passes I've been seeing. Make no mistake...I like Fitz...but there is a BETTER QB sitting on the bench. And, I am NOT happy, now, with an 8-8 showing. Outside of our starting QB we have the talent to win 11 games THIS year! Hands down. I don't care what was said at the beginning of the season...time to evolve people...

    At the beginning of the season EVERYONE right down to the damn water boy and fans in the stands were tweeting/touting how much better Smith looked...so, outside a broken jaw...what's changed?
     
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  6. JStokes

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    No, you didn't.

    It's ok, it's what I expected from you.

    I would have said, yes, I like that pizza.

    Simple question.

    Simple answer.

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  7. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    No...how about, for a damn change, the Jets act preemptively for a change...how about a little forethought? WHY do we have to lose a "few" games for the switch to happen? This logic NEVER makes any sense to me. If we played 165 games go for it. With 16 games...a "few" games makes all the difference between making the playoffs and picking in the top 15. Period.
     
  8. Trainer

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    Does Geno have upside? Potential? Maybe, but no coach in his right mind is going to jeopardize a 3-1 start to find out. We stick with Fitz as long as we continue winning and he has the respect of his teammates.
     
  9. heartpumpsgreen

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    It's simple ... Jets are 3-1 now ... if they switch now and Geno shits the bed I could imagine the locker room will not be a happy place .. duDE I am kind of on your side. Fitz is a complete dud, the definition of an average QB ... a solid spot starter. Good to have as a back up. But his arm is terrible his accuracy stinks and the huge misconception out there is that he makes good decisions. He makes TERRIBLE decisions and has been lucky. But he understands the offense. Throws a decent 15 yard pass nothing more! The BEST thing for the Jets is that Geno is improved and can play solid ball with his natural God given talents which are superior to Fitz. But ....

    Jets are 3-1. Maybe Fitz learns not to throw into triple coverage with his noodle arm, maybe his deep wobbly ducks keep finding their way into Marshalls hands. It is frustrating though, did anyone else catch Devin Smiths look on his face after Fitz missed him wide open this week, camera went right to it and stayed ... his face said it all "come on man..." and it's depressing to know that literally with the flick of a wrist Geno throws that bomb to Marshall in stride and it goes for a touchdown ... but still I side with sticking with Fitz until he proves to be too costly.

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  10. mezzavo

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    So we keep the shit QB and blow the confidence of our 2nd round up and coming talent. I have to agree with Fouts on that one play you are describing...Devin Smith was literally thinking "I've played with better QB talent in college than this shit..."

    Well...I've said my peace...I'm not on the band wagon of "let's lose 3 games" then we'll make the switch to Smith...but if everyone here is cool with that...so be it. All I DO have to say is if I'm not online for a long time after a game it's because I DID have a heart attack because of Fitz's up and down bullshit and I passed out right there and had to be wheeled to the hospital. I'm not sure my heart can take many more games like that Dolphins game...we DOMINATED them and it should have been a white washed blow out...but, thanks to the offense, I wasn't comfortable ever... <sigh>

    I'll leave it alone now... LOL... :p
     
  11. Trainer

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    If Geno didn't put you in the hospital last year, I'm pretty sure you'll survive Fitz. (but then I'm not a doctor... HA!)
     
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  12. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Players command respect with their play on the field, how they interact with other players and lead, and their work ethic. Geno has at least two of those three against him and something tells me he's not the hardest worker in the world...
     
  13. The 1985er

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    And you're not the authority on how I should answer a question fuck outta here.
     
  14. NYJetsO12

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    Disrespect= A punch in the jaw
     
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  15. cval

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    You are kidding me right? There is not luck in the NFL you are what record says you are :). What has changed is that Geno missed teh first three games and the Jets went 3-1. You are judging that Geno turned the corner based on pre-season? Go around the league and look at all th great pre-season performances it really means nothing.

    From what we have seen of Geno and what we have seen of Fitz (not what we think or hope) Fitz is doing a better job. He know the offense gets everybody in the right spots and his mistakes (even his picks) have not really hurt the team.

    We should believe Geno that has was out for almost two months with no first team reps can magically come in and be better than fitz or lead us to more wins? Really? Where is the proof? Petty has a better arm and quicker release than Geno we should play him.

    If you do not think avoiding sacks putting guys in the proper spots and having the trust of your team is not important you really do not understand football or team sports in general. You people act like Geno was ever good he was the worst QB in the league the last two years Ok so he gets better now he is the bottom third what changes? RGIII looked great his rookie year now is on the bench he has much better physical tool than cousins. Your arguments are ridiculous on a team that is winning.
     
  16. Andy_M

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    Seriously?? The starting QB and a defensive player get all hot and heavy in each other's face, in the locker room, and NO ONE in the locker room gets in between them to stop an altercation. That doesn't tell you anything about the "respect" level for that QB ? It speaks volumes to me......
     
  17. APK 8

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    Fitz for now. As long as he keeps winning and limiting turnovers.....
     
  18. mute

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    Fitz but long term neither will work and once again we'll be wishing for a franchise qb.
     
  19. JStokes

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    You can answer it however you want to.

    Your answer was no regardless of how you want to qualify it.

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  20. kinggofg

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    Geno has done a tremendous job. Dude has been a stud. Hasn't thrown a single pick and hasn't cost us a single game. Let's hope he can keep this performance up.
     

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