Brian winters to start at RG vs Dolphins.

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  1. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    I did not see this anywhere else on the forum, my apologies if double post.

    This CS does not have a history with BW, but I think they will learn their lesson the hard way on Sunday. It's one of my worst nightmares coming true, personally, with the 5 receiver set that Gailey likes to run, there is no way in the world Fitz makes it through this game without getting injured.

    Even with decker and Ivory back, it's about match ups, and I can see the Giants game vs the jets repeating itself when Wayne hunter was our RG, the Giants linemen were more than happy to be lined up across him.

    I'm very concerned about this matchup.....article below:



    With Willie Colon's knee keeping him out of practice this week, Brian Winters is ready to step back in as a starting guard for the Jets against the Dolphins.

    And he says that running into Miami's new DT, Ndamukong Suh, is just another day at the office.

    "He's a good player, but I'm going to take it like any other game," Winters said after today's practice. "It's the same every week. You get someone else. I'm not worried about it."

    Winters, of course, will be prepared for the big dude named Suh, who left Detroit for Miami as an unrestricted free agent.

    Suh (6'4", 305) can be formidable, and Winters (6'4", 320) has had his ups and downs, but he's also had stretches of solid play as the strongman third-rounder out of Kent State in 2013. He became the LG starter in Game 5 as a rookie and made 18 straight starts until a knee injury ended last season in Game 6.

    "Obviously it was a little rough, a little setback," he said of his ACL rehab. "But I am where I am now. I've grown as a player and gotten better."

    Winters actually ran into Suh a bit in Game 4 at MetLife Stadium last season. Mostly Suh lined up on the Lions' left side over RG Colon, but LG Winters trapped him successfully on a run play and held him out on some pass rushes. For the game Suh was not prominent with a single tackle and no sacks or QB hits.


    The Jets O-line — with Winters at his more comfortable right-side spot — now will try to neutralize the Dolphins' dangerous front four of Cameron Wake and Olivier Vernon on the ends and Suh and Earl Mitchell (limited at practice with a back injury) inside.

    Yet the Dolphins have not gotten off to the big rush one might expect with Wake and Suh — their one sack through three games is tied for last in the NFL.

    “I’ve gone through this before," Suh said from Miami. "Teams don’t want us to get sacks and I commend them for that. At the end of the day, we have to go out there and will ourselves to sacks. Nobody is going to give them to us."

    Head coach Todd Bowles had a different W-word for Winters' challenge this week: "Eat your Wheaties."

    But Bowles also had words of confidence in Winters, now in line to become only the third different Jets RG starter in the last 12 seasons, after Brandon Moore and, for the last 34 games, Colon.

    "Brian's a tough guy," the coach said. "He'll fight."
     
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  2. JetFanInPA

    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

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    I was surprised he made the team, but it's a good sign that he was able to make an impression on the new regime... Hopefully it starts to click for him in year 3
     
  3. ConcordeChops

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    Look on the bright side, he's not lining up at LG.
     
  4. JDeacon

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    Were is Snow when you need him to shut this shit down.....

    O yeah that's right betrayed by his "bros" in black bleeding out like a bitch.

    This is were our failure of finding a true blocking TE is going to kill us. Suh should feast and make the dolphins line look decent for ones. ugh
     
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    Mangold and Breno will certainly need to help out.
     
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    Can't we just put a trash can there instead? At least that might slow down Suh a bit....
     
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  7. Faux machine

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    Over/under on penalty yardage Winters costs us by holding?
     
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    Great, so Mangold will have to play two positions again like he did last year when he was baby sitting Winters on every down to make sure he doesn't get crushed, which essentially affected his performance, the entire line actually until Aboushi took over and Mangold was able to focus on his own position.
     
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    As good a Suh is, his teams never seem to win much. Not losing a lot of sleep.
     
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    I understand the concern here, but I have not heard anything bad about Winters since he came back. He did make the team when the CS and FO have nothing personally invested in him. I think that gives reason for optimism here, until he proves otherwise.
     
  11. Jonathan_Vilma

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    This isn't a bad strategy. Trash cans are big and bulky, can be annoying to pickup and move out of the way especially if they're the big ones with the wheels.
     
  12. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    This might've been the problem with Winters. He is TERRIBLE blocking the inside move to his right which is why he got killed by the same move when tackles would rush up field and club him to cut inside towards the center.

    Maybe he's better at moving the other way.
     
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    The dude was TERRIBLE last year..... I just hope switching sides really make a difference, and raises his play to a level of COMPETENT.
     
  14. TwoHeadedMonster

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    I will never understand us dumping "Almost Average Aboushi" and hanging on to "WTF Winters".

    Honestly, the best thing I can say about Winters is that he isn't quite as bad as Wayne Hunter.
     
  15. TonyMaC

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    hey, y'know who never gets talked about?

    James Carpenter; the guard we signed from seattle and the man with the unenvious task of facing Suh.

    he's been doing fine at filling in at LG, haven't heard his name called out much negatively or otherwise though.
     
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  16. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Your right he has been good, the line as a whole has been good. However I don't think that Carpenter will be facing Suh, the Dolphins will put Suh over winters which will force the double team to help Winters block Suh.
     
  17. rohirrim665

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    Over my head, what are you alluding to?
     
  18. rohirrim665

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    Apparently Winters is better than Aboushi according to our CS, so let's see.
     
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    Fins pass rush has been very quiet so far this season. Hopefully it continues Sunday.
     

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