He looks like shit. He hasn't been average go check his stats this season all of them. I don't even think he had 200 yards against the Browns. Fitz was below average against both Cleveland and Philly. 58 attempts and he didn't even hit 300 yards Tyrod has played average, I wouldn't say he played well cuz when he played a real team like the Pats he was exposed. Prevent defense let them back in that game. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
They both aren't the long-term answer, but I think Fitz gives the Jets the best chance to win right now. I would wait to see what happens when Decker and Ivory return. Both QBs I think are giving Petty time to adjust to the NFL.
This is the kind of pass Devin Smith needed on sunday. I Think Geno can have much better chemistry with these weapons than fitz can. He's already proven to have GREAT chemistry with Decker.. Marshall loves Geno.. they live together dammit.. they'll get right. And as seen in the video above Devin Smith will only benefit from a arm like Geno's (or even Petty) not captain check down Fitz. All geno has to do is manage the game right and take what the defense gives him.. CONSISTENTLY, not just one quarter or one half or one game, and that comes with time and experience..it's not something that can be fixed. A Noodle arm can't be fixed.
Fitz's stats. You say shit, I say average: Week 1 15 for 24 (63%) with 179 yards passing 2 TD's and 1 INT (Average) Week 2 22 for 34 (65%) with 244 yards passing 2 TD's and 1 INT (Average to Good) Week 3 35 of 58 (60%) with 283 yards passing 2 TD's and 3 INT's (Bad to Average, if one considers the 3rd INT was a bad play by Marshall) But a loss is a loss.
and you know more then anyone else? I don't think so. I find you appraisal of geno and his ability limited at best not taking into account his short comings in game management and reading defenses. You are not taking into account any of the evaluations done on geno before or after the draft
No doubt Geno sucked a whole lot last year, and contrary to your suggestion, I am not clamoring for Geno to be our QB. What I was responding to was your statement that Geno had only one good meaningless game, which I felt was an overstatement, and one that is commonly made by the Fitz lovers/Geno haters. As I said earlier, I believe Fitz must be our starter. I don't feel he is our long term answer and is likely to get injured or benched at some point this season. Then we will see if Geno has stepped up, stayed the same, or regressed. I suspect that our QB situation will continue to be a mess for several years.
Sorry do you know how wrong and one sided this appears, when the ball was not being moved last yr Geno was exposed any poor qb would be and that is what geno is. everyone is saying the same thing here fitz is not great but he is better then geno. Why because he does not loose games by himself. granted he does not win them by himself but he does not loose them like geno does. people are choosing to ignore facts and are being blinded by practice ignoring his short comings from last year, 3 interceptions in three series, or how about completing one pass in the miami game to the other team when decker was wide open when he threw into double coverage? sorry but geno does nto sustain drives either the long term answer at qb is either petty or is not on the team atm
And your taking Fitzpatricks into account. You obviously haven't watched him at all. He hasn't been good at all outside of the contract year in Buffalo. You don't know his tendencies. You think he's a game manager, he's not. He doesn't play like one. He doesn't go thru his progressions. He's not adapt at reading defenses. I don't know where you got any of that from. If he was good at any of those things he wouldn't be a journeyman, and he'd be much more productive than he has been. Dont question my ability to evaluate anyone. I said in this forum weeks ago what to do to stop Fitzpatrick and Philly did just that. See how effective it was?what's one good thing all good qb have in common? They all can throw a deep ball. Watch how many shots Brady takes down field a game or Rogers. Fitzpatrick has none of that. He's not mediocre and no fan of a team he's been on will say otherwise. Even Houston and their qb situation is as bad as ours. They were willing to let him go Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Geno does sustain drives well, he just doesn't finish them. I think anyone here will tell you that this is his biggest flaw. He's never had problems between the 20s.
wrong bud I am taking fitz into account and the nfl knows fitz and his short comings and despite those he is still a better option when everything is factored into the qb position the geno. and I will question your evaluation in talent sorry it offends but you are limited in your view. You seem to be ignoring the fact a shit load of people agree fitz is not the longterm answer or even a good answer at best. he is just the best option on a crappy qb roster. But you go ahead and choose to ignore that. What you called about the qbs is common knowledge not something you plucked out of the air with a god given talent. Any fan with knowledge could write that
Really? cuz I didn't see anyone here saying that. Watch some football foreal and get back to me. Because all this "common knowledge" about Fitzpatrick seems to be lost in this board and why anyone thinks he's a good option is beyond me. Then again I watch football not pick and choose what I want to believe about somebody. If they're just not good they just aren't good. Fitzpatrick will struggle again this week and you will see Geno come in. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Just generally on the Fitzpatrick taking bad shots down the field issue: he's seen a lot of football in his time. He's seen most of it with him throwing the football. He may well have decided that taking random shots down the field and taking chances with the ball in that area is better than having the safeties cheat up and clog the medium passing lanes and the run game. He really is a pretty smart guy. Sometimes you have to throw the ball deep just to keep the defense honest and if they pick it, well it's 40 yards downfield at that point. This is not the "deep int is as good as a punt" argument. It's the "mediocre arm QB can't possibly succeed if the safeties are cheating up" argument. It looks really bad at times but the Jets have given up 10 - 7 - 17 points on defense this year and one of those TD's was a short field off of an unforced error by a WR after Fitzpatrick completed a pass. I'm pretty sure nobody knows Fitzpatrick's limitations better than Fitzpatrick.
All this talk of Fitz having a noodle-arm, and the whole league knew this.... If thats the case, how does one explain the high long balls percentage last year? From JetNation: http://www.jetnation.com/2015/09/29/deep-trouble-for-new-york-jets-ryan-fitzpatrick/ Fitzpatrick’s struggles were somewhat surprising based on his success throwing the deep ball last season when he held the leagues second-best deep accuracy rate behind only Matt Ryan. According to statistical web site PFF.com, when Fitzpatrick threw it long last year, he was on target on 20 of 38 attempts, a 52.6% accuracy rate. In the early going this season however, it’s been a much different story as Fitzpatrick is ranked 26th in the NFL, going 3-20 when looking for a big gain, a mere 15%.
The yard totals in the first two games alone make them average at best if not slightly below average. The only reason his completion percentage is that high is because he checks down and is willing to check down to a guy that will get creamed for a five yard loss instead of throwing the ball into the dirt.
