LOL someone just referred to Geno as a potential NFL quarterback. That's some funny shit right there.
I think he was a game manager in the first 2 games, and kept the gunslinger antics to a minimum. He only had three bad passes/reads in the Colts game that I saw, for example. Thats the good Fitz and the guy that fits the Jets designs very well. He falls short when asked to bring the team back from a 24-0 deficit. He did get them within a TD, not like he crapped the bed like Geno would have done. And that was without Ivory and Decker and with Marshall making at least 2 key mistakes. So I think you are discounting him some. If he was the guy that could put the team on his back and bring them back from a 4 score game, he wouldn't have been traded for a 7th round pick by a QB needy team.
The Jets don't have a QB right now that is going to give you a complete game minus the mental errors and occasional bad throws. However of the guys they do have Fitzpatrick is most likely to be able to stay in-bounds and play within his constraints and manage the Jets to a win. Geno has to go to a completely different level than he has shown us so far to be a better option than Fitzpatrick. I don't mean that he has to be a superstar QB or even a very good one. He has to learn his limitations and manage the game better than he has been able to in the past. He has to be quicker in his decision-making without just throwing picks all over the place. He has to be wiser in terms of knowing the game situation and what is needed right now. So far he's been a very random element for the Jets and until he shows us he's better than that I'd rather stick with the vet who at least has part of the job down.
Einstein said that. He also did not scrap entire experiments because it didn't work. He tweaked the ingredients, like say h.c. and o.c.
I think if anyone saw the two live in practice and scrimmage this summer, you'd realized why Geno was the starter. Most of us could throw as well as Fitzpatrick can. It's one thing to see on TV, but to see them live? There's a clear difference. I keep trying to explain to people to lose this Fitzpatrick is a game manager mentality. He doesn't play like one and he hasn't in all 3 games. He just was getting away with it. Teams will key in. Do not be surprised to see more of the same this week. The Dolphins will do exactly what the Eagles did, and they have a decent defense too. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Marshall is not the one person on this roster you want to use as an example of backing a qb ever he backed cutler long enough to throw him under the bus never mind the known mental issues and he has shown bad decision making on the field remember the lateral just this past week.... Geni went 8-8 his first yr enough to think he would grow right...nope and that team and there are players on this team from that team did not stick up for him before during or after the punch from IK. You do not change unless there is an injury to fitz or he is so incredibley bad he is losing games on his own like Geno was last yr
that's great sorry but I don't need to see a practice to see that geno has poor decision making skills. No one has said fitz is long term he is just the best of a bad qb crop on the Jets. The difference is Geno has fooled a whole bunch of people on preseason hype anyone remember Browning Nagle.....Geno's in game ability to turn over the ball is really unprecedented and people seem to be in love with his arm it takes more then the ability to throw the ball to play qb in the nfl.
And Fitzpatrick hasn't played a game this season without a turnover. So how can you sit here and say he's better? Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
it's pretty simple we won two of those games. there is no telling how bad Geno would or could be. Based on practice sorry look at in game footage and look at how bad geno has looked. Sorry right now the best thing for Geno is to sit and learn how to play the qb position. not that fitz is a great player by any means but it should help geno learn his limitations. Sorry but geno is just as bad if not worse than fitz even if he has a better arm and physical skills. His decision making on the field is worse
So you can hypothetical say one is better than the other but the argument doesn't go the other way? That's a faulty argument. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Fitzpatrick also has Brandon Marshall to throw the ball to and bail him out with tough catches, while Geno had scrubs the last 2 years. But you know, that's none of my business.
Fitzpatrick was coming off a broken leg. C'mon now. With complimentary offense. Still need to score points at critical junctures and the Jets have done so.
Just some food for thought to see what you're reasonings are. We know what we have in Fitz. Does anybody think he can take us far? If so, what's your reasoning? We kind of know what we have in Geno, but since he's still young and was showing good signs, we don't know for sure yet. That being said, would you rather a mediocre, average at best, season under Fitz, missing the playoffs by a game or 2. So like 7-9 to 9-7. Giving us a crappy draft position and a mediocre season. Or would you rather a potentially horrible or potentially good, yes good, season under Geno. If he sucks like many think he does, then we tank and get a shot at a QB. Or if he actually plays great like some think he can, we can hit the playoffs. so 4-12 to 10-6 potential. A shot at a round 1 QB or the playoffs. Does this make sense? Just want to see your thoughts.
That's not an excuse for his arm strength and poor play. Stop making excuses please. I'm not trying to tell you how to think, but come one we need to be consistent I'm the not making excuse part. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
In the first 2 games we generated an unreal and unsustainable 10 takeaways. The touchdown drives in those games were of 9, 19, 28, 72, 9 and 80 yards. The offense also failed to capitalize on multiple other short fields the defense provided for them. Not surprisingly, in the game where the team only generated 1 turnover, the offense struggled to move the ball on most drives. Then when the D finally generated a game changing turnover that caused the stadium to explode, we gave it right back. This year, the Jets have started 13.51% of their own drives inside the 20, 3rd lowest in the NFL. Last year, they were 11th highest with 26.88% of drives starting inside their own 20. Moving the ball has never been Geno's problem, finishing has been. The Jets led the NFL in drives of 10+ plays with Geno at QB last year, but were by far last in the NFL in red zone TD percentage (36.17%). With all the close games they played, the 2014 record would have been radically different with a better red zone percentage. I really want to see if Geno can improve on his drive finishing with a guy like Marshall. A lot of the TD's this year have been due to Marshall's sheer size and ability to win the football away from defenders one on one. I think that can be a crutch for Geno. Not to mention that he'll have the luxury of dealing with short fields, which he didn't have last season with the defense generating a league low 13 takeaways. We're not moving the ball, and it's going to be exposed in games where we don't start 5 drives in plus territory. I want to see a 3 game sample after the bye to see if Geno can. If he can't, put Fitz back in, but we're not going anywhere with a QB who can't sustain drives.
His play has been better than Geno Smith. That's regular season games btw. No one is making excuses, but we've seen what Geno Smith has to offer. - slow decision making - bad decision making - bad at throwing to receivers running inside routes - poor leadership qualities Those bad qualities outweigh Fitzpatrick's arm strength. Jets need to continue to buy time for Petty and maybe a new QB via draft. I think the Jets need to give Fitzpatrick at least until the BYE to make a switch - and IMO it would have to be an ugly loss to the Dolphins.
And Fitzpatrick has shown better? I really wonder sometimes if thid board watches the same games. He constantly throws into double and triple coverage. Hell he threw a screen pass to a running back surrounded by 5 defensive players. He never throws it away, he hasn't been consistent, yet somehow that's better than Geno? Tho you hold that over Genos head. He makes poor decisions. Well Fitzpatrick hasn't made good ones. Out defense and a great catching recievers in Marshall have bailed him out immensely. He hasn't looked good in any game dude. I don't want to hear about his bullshit completion percentage either. Completing a pass for 1 or negative yards to pad it doesn't make him better. I think he's smart enough to fool people who don't look at the whole picture. Ie throw a short pass to pad a Stat and look more useful than he really is. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
