You People Blaming Fitz are Ridiculous

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Falco21, Sep 27, 2015.

  1. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    of course he shouldnt be starting. if he was on a team with an average QB, he woudlnt be starting. but he isnt. he is on a team whose backups are Geno, the worst qb in football, and petty, a guy 2 years away from being ready to even compete for a spot.

    no jet fan thinks fitz is a good player and solid option. our qb situation sucks, and fitz is our only option
     
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  2. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    what upside does geno have? to me at best geno is still a bottom 10 qb. he has a super low ceiling
     
  3. JetLifeLo

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    He's a 24 year old kid that was started in the league prematurely and forced into an offense that has absolutely nothing to do with his skill set or style of play. We now run a system similar to what Geno dissected teams with back at WVU and we have some real NFL WR's not some practice squad wanna-be's. Geno was killing it last December had the second highest QB Rating in the NFL behind Romo that month and played well and trained hard all summer long.. i think it's fair to say the upside is there..and i'm really interested in see what he can do with the new regime before writing the kid off so early.
     
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    Dude I might bicker with you but I like you; however, you are totally destroying my Megaman game theory focus.

    Please, he is not our only option and you suddenly realize my proclamation about Geno starting again is a very real possibility. Gotta go with the young guy especially if the ceiling on the vet is the same. Tho I'm liking him not hastily doing so. Let Fitzpatrick play the fags and we'll go from there

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  5. FJF

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    best to let it go. there is a faction so dug in against geno there is nothing you can say, even when they use the same excuses for fitz that the dismissed for geno last season
     
  6. JetLifeLo

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    Yeah... It's pretty much a lost cause at this point.. i'm just hoping Bryce is developing well behind the scenes.
     
  7. FlaJet

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    Your full of love for geno and that make you blind. Don't tell me I don't know much about football because of disagreements with you. I watched and have been following the NFL and the old AFC with the Cleveland Browns since 1952. Never mind what I say just read what scouts and other professionals say about Geno's professional peformance. He is the WORST rated qb in the NFL. But of course you know more than them. Stop with BS that it takes 2 years as that just doesn't hold water in every case. Duh! I never said you think he is the answer but between the lines you know what your saying. I don't like Geno as my QB and thats my opinion. Can he succeed? Hell yes but that remains to be seen. If you don't want to be put down stop with the "other fans are clueless and don't know football". You can be opinionated without the smart alec remarks about other posters. I never said you know little or are clueless about football. The post are nothing more than opinions. I asked a question it would have better if you just answered it instead of getting insulting
     
  8. SOJAZ

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    Bottom line the OL was terrible ... esp right side.
     
  9. rammagen

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    Bias hardly.. Geno has not proven to be a leader on or off the field, give Geno 10 more games and all he needs is 9 more turn overs and they are equal.
    Nether is a long term answer but at least you go with the guy that has the intelligence to read defenses and make the right plays even if he can't throw the ball as far or as hard he gives you a better chance.
    And you are just as biased for anyone not named Geno.
    the most telling stat is the fact that look at Fitz's career stats and he still has more tds then turnovers. Can you say the same for Geno.........34 and 25 guess which is which. All I want to do is put someone out there with a head on his shoulders that can read defenses correctly and gives us the best chance to win. those two are hand in hand Geno does nether because he can't read defenses. Not all 34 interceptions are his fault but come on you can not honestly think all 34 turn overs were someone else's fault
     
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  10. JetLifeLo

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    I mean..i think any QB would turn the ball over a lot in the offenses we've put on the field since about 2011. As a starter you can't just keep throwing 3 yard passes even on 3rd and long just because your terrified at making a mistake.. is it ok to make that decision sometimes? yes, damn right it is.. BUT when you are doing it for an entire 4 quarters it becomes a problem as well. As a starter you HAVE to make SOMETHING happen eventually.. and that's where things get forced, turnovers happen, games get lost.. I think the Jets should really focus on O-line for the next few years in the draft because hell look how it works for Dallas... Romo doesn't even throw the ball down field any more but he has the fortune of a great o-line that will always get you rushing yards guaranteed or even if you throw a million screens and check downs, it'll work 85% of the time when all else is failing.
     
  11. fansince90

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    Fitz is not a gun slinger. He's a possession passer. He needs receivers that can catch short to intermediate passes and RAC.
     
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    Do I need to give you a list of how many times the scouts been wrong about a player? What do these experts and scouts say how long it takes for a QB to develop? If I thought Geno was the answer I would say so there no reading between the lines with me.
     
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    No you don't and yet one can say do you need to be told how many times a these experts and scouts were right. Thus it's just one opinion against another with neither one being or wrong. Only time will tell.
     
  14. Geno007

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    True.
     
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  15. jerseyjay14

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    I agree, he was forced into an offense that wasnt suited for his style of play.... the jets offense asked him to score points and limit turnovers. thats not his style. he needs an offense more suited to his unique skill of throwing pick sixes, making idiotic decisions, and fumbling all over the place.

    the best offense for geno is one where he gets to watch from the sideline instead of seeing the actual field, in that sense, so far this offense has been good for him.

    what geno did at WVU is irrelevant. college is a completely different game. he has zero upside and a super low celing. having a good december inflated by a huge game vs miami doesnt change how awful he was for 2 seasons.

    im not interested to see what he can do, ive seen enough dog shit qb play.
     
  16. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    there is not a faction against geno

    there is a faction against starting the worst qb in football
     
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    Fitzpatrick is our best option. If he can't do the job then Geno is probably next man up and he'll be our best option at that point.
     
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    Best post ever.
     
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    It doesn't matter anyway, the TEAM is quite obviously not behind him. That has been clearly demonstrated. Fitz will have to get injured for Geno to have any shot at getting back out there as the #1.
     
  20. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    fitzpatrick is our ONLY option. if he got hurt we would need to try and aquire another qb via free agency or trade. bryce isnt ready and geno isnt an nfl player
     

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