Offensive Predictability

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  1. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    This is something that worries me going forward with this team and in particular the offense. Gailey's done a good job mixing up the personnel to keep the offense fresh but as we move forward teams may start to notice tendencies.

    It's no secret we love spread sets with 4-5 receivers. Our only successful runs of the night came on misdirection runs when we brought in Davis or Bohannon. It's a dead give away that we're running the ball as soon as Kellen David checks in. I hope that Gailey realizes this and while the lack of a good tightend hurts an offense in the passing game it hurts it a lot more in short yardage conversions.

    He's not scared to spread defenses out in short yardage situations. The problem is that as we start to hit the elements later in the season we will need beefier sets to turn a 2nd or 3rd and 1-3 into an easy run conversion. Hopefully we start to throw Davis or Bohannon into the flats on play action to make defense respect their maximum 7 yard gains. It helps the running game as much as it helps the passing game.

    We need the interior offensive line to improve. We have the best 5 out there but Mangold did not have a good game on Monday and neither of our guards showed any sort of push against a terrible front. Maybe it's just me but it seemed like the backs were hesitant in hitting the holes and that's probably because of early pent ration in the first quarter.

    Ivory is certainly not a vision runner as he basically hits the one hole he's destined to hit on the play or quickly bounces to the outside and tries to take on the entire team himself. He's a battering ram and he loves to bang so you have to respect that, but he is not patient if there is no initial push or hole.

    Just a couple thoughts. I feel much better after two weeks than I thought I would and what a relief it is to have outside playmakers to help along an average quarterback and an offensive line that had a bad game.

    One last note... the wildcat is dead in Rutherford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. Burnz

    Burnz Well-Known Member

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    I think we have the backs to battle the season barring injury. And in itself will solve the issue. Our Oline will only get better(...also barring injury) I personally think Ivory or Stacy can close games as the elements get worse
     
  3. socaljetfan

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    Game plan was extremely conservative, they're not going to be able to play that way all season so I hope they don't plan on doing that.
     
  4. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Colts defensive front is actually much better than people think. They're hard to move off the LOS. I think the Colts are going to shut down a lot of rushing attacks this year.

    They've given up 248 on the ground yards through the first two weeks, however they've played the two teams in the AFC most likely to try to just run the ball all day long and they've only given up 3.9 yards a rush to them.
     
  5. jdon

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    I guess you show as much as you have to. And as the season goes along you add more wrinkles after teams go to school on you. Most teams know we are going to run on first 90% of the time. The key is execution. The deception I would like is some passes on third and short. Safe passes, but passes. Pats do it all the time.
     
  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    after six years of sanchez and smith NOW you're worried about offensive predictability with THIS team and THIS OC? Really? We have been playing with the lead for two weeks, wait till we get down a couple of scores and then see what you get from Gailey.
     
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  7. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    The best is when the defense knows that you are running and they still can't stop you. The other is let the defense think they know what you are running, than pull it out and throw it over the top. Let the defense bite
     
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  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Granted they are big up front. But three out of five of their rotational defensive line are rookies, two of which are starters. We should've ran better than the 2.4 yards per carry we averaged sans 2 runs.
     
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    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    I agree with most of your post. Like every other jets fan, I am delighted with their start. Just writing to underscore what I have posted before and that is the jets REALLY need to address OL in 2016 draft. I would like to see a replay of 2006 when the jets took OL with their first two picks. All of their decent OL save Carpenter are north of 30, and IMO it is time to invest not 1 but 2 high picks on the OL.
     
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    as long as part of the predictablility is that our drives will end in turnovers im fine with it.

    give me 17-21 points on 1 turnover or less and im happy. i dont care if we have 3 and outs. but we cant afford turnovers. keep the clock moving and dont give them easy scores
     
  11. Zach

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    You want Geno in for QB?
     
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    I recorded and watched the Buffalo / Indy game from the previous week and I did notice that Indy was better against the run than I thought they would be. Box Score says Buffalo ran for 147 yards but that doesn't begin to tell the story. Tyrod Taylor had 40 something himself running from the pocket. Buffalo was pounding the rock without tremendous success and it looked kinda like we looked most of the game. McCoy was getting frustrated and just like against us the interior running plays were not working too well. Buffalo's best runs came on cutbacks to the outside if I remember correctly.
     
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    Yeah, that rookie DE/DT Henry Anderson was beasting on us for much of the game, that guy is going to be good.
     
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    He looks like he's going to be great. The rookie NT looks pretty good too.
     
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    i was impressed with Anderson and Parry..
    D'brick had a lot of trouble run blocking Anderson, and Parry gave Mangold fits and even busted up some double teams.

    thought we'd be able to run over their line, but wasn't the case.
     
  16. NYJETS4life24

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    I don't want to see us down a couple scores lol
     
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  17. MenOverGod

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    We've yet to have to play from behind.
     
  18. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    That's a good thing. I hope Jets don't have to play from behind at all this season. Playing with lead makes the job easier for everybody.
     
  19. TonyMaC

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    inevitably, they'll have to. everybody trails some time or another

    it'll be interesting to see who the jets are in the dark. can they muster a huge turnover when its absolutely needed? can we make enough big plays on offense to keep a must score drive going?

    stopping Luck is impressive and all but...
     
  20. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    This really is a joke. You want to complain about predictability? Every team is predictable.

    The Patriots will throw a lot of short passes that can't be defended, mixed in with some runs and then a few deep passes to catch defenses off guard.

    EVERYONE knows this but they still win doing it every year.
     

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