We're gonna botch this Wilkerson situation

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  1. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    If I was GM I'd trade Mo straight up for JJ then move Coples back to the line with Sheldon and Big Cat.
     
  2. pclfan

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    Well some some teams very successfully can build a defense without 16 mil per season cornerbacks. Or they can build their own which was what Idzik tried to do.
     
  3. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    Who in recent history has won by pinching pennies?
     
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    Who in recent history has won by spending like drunken sailor?
     
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    You don't spend your whole cap on a few players. You build a team since it's a team sport not an All Star team. And big names don't always work out. For one the Steelers and New England. On the opposite side of the fence the Redskins. It wasn't pinching pennies. If so do why sign Decker, Vick, etc and trade for Harvin. And maybe save money to re-sign your own star players.
     
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  6. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    I think they're playing this brilliantly.
    Wilk knows he needs an off the chart season to show they need to get a deal done and it can only work in our favor.

    We've also got a rookie who plays the same position who has been thrust into a starting role due to Richardson's bonehead decision making which will factor into this decision.

    Mac is using all the tools at his disposal to make sure the $ spent isn't going to hurt us in the future.
    Tannenbaum threw $ around like it was on fire in his hands and he didn't want to get burned and we all know where that got us.

    The ball is totally in our court here, relax boys.
     
  7. pclfan

    pclfan Well-Known Member

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    The way I understand it a team can roll over unspent cap money to the following season. But over a 4 year period have to spend 89% of the total. You can't get away with not spending it. So if your star young players deals aren't ready to re-do you can put away future money to re-sign them. Of course if you spend it all you don't have extra money esp if prices keep going up. The Jets carryover for 2015 was 12 million.
     
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  8. Greenday4537

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    Not sure what you are specifically trying to say there, but the Vick signing and Harvin trade was some of the dumbest moves I've seen in a long time.
     
  9. BigJenks

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    JJ Watt? We would have to trade Mo, Sheldon and Leonard for JJ.
     
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    do u know what a joke is
     
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    I love the way Mac is playing this. The Jets always had all the leverage in this situation. The way Wilkerson gets leverage back is by having an all-pro season. If he does, I would assume the jets try and sign him to a 11-12 per deal. If he doesn't like that offer than he is either traded or franchised. Do I feel for the guy, no. He's making millions playing the game he loves. He's going to get his either here in NY or someplace else.
     
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    Is there any reason to think Wilk won't do well in this system? I actually think he'll do even better than what he did in Rex's system.
     
  13. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    If the other teams that had 3-4 DE's had another guy about as good as the guy they signed on the roster they'd have punted on paying what they paid right now. J.J. Watt is an exception. He's the best defensive player in the game and he was going to get paid no matter what but the Jordan's and Heywards got paid what they got paid because if their team lost them they were screwed.
     
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  14. Br4d

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    No way. The Texans would never dilute Watt's value like that. That would be like trading Aaron Rodgers for Philip Rivers, Malcolm Floyd and Keenan Allen. Three very good players in return but you're never going to get the same return you'd get by keeping Aaron Rodgers. Then throw in the fact that Watt is one of the top 3 marketable players in the NFL today and his value is just much greater than the Jet's trio, who have great value as a group themselves.
     
  15. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    I genuinely like Mo
    I genuinely want him to get paid a fair deal.

    But I root for the name on the front not on the back and we are stacked at DL, and Mo is better than average but sir, he is no Reggie White.

    I'm just going to trust MacaggDaddy on this one.
     
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  16. Br4d

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    Mo's a top 10 defensive lineman at this point and he's a threat to be a top 3 guy if he ever puts a dominant season together. That's what he's going to have to do if he wants a huge contract. If he has the same season this year that he had last year I don't know that the Jets franchise him. I don't know what they do in that situation. It's hard to trade a guy under the tag.
     
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    Ok, I'll throw in Mouldin. Won't need him with JJ playin here. Pace, Sheldon, Snacks, Williams, Couples, JJ. That should get it done.
     
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    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    So the 'best player in history of the Texans' that's never gotten them to the playoffs? There were a lot of ppl who said the Jets would NEVER trade Revis, the best DB in history and the face of the franchise. But there he went. All it takes is a stupid one GM. And don't forget, our very own GM drafted Watt, so Watt owes us a solid.
     
  19. Br4d

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    The only way Watt changes teams before he's 30-ish is if an injury takes him down and the Texans just can't live with the backend of his contract. Reggie White was a free agent.

    The Jets couldn't commit the kind of money Revis wanted on a long deal with him coming off of a short season ended by a knee injury. Any team in the NFL would have made the trade the Jets got if the choice was between giving Revis a $50M guarantee coming off of that injury or getting a 1st round pick plus in return. It took the Bucs to make the deal happen for the Jets. Nobody else was willing to give up a 1st round pick plus $50M to get even a great player coming off that kind of injury.

    The Bucs didn't even guarantee Revis more than his $16M for 2013, which tells you how bad a deal it was for them. Trading your 1st round pick for a guy you don't know for sure you want to have around for 3+ years is insane unless he's a great QB.
     
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  20. pclfan

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    Vick was the best available FA Qb in 2014. And Harvin was a good no risk transaction because he didn't have a long term deal to get an impact player. Name me someone else available in 2014 who could compare to Percy who at times looked very good for the Jets.
     

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