Does anyone feel like the NFL is getting stale?

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  1. SteveGrogan

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    It's becoming more of a soap opera and less about good football. Too many viewers, probably 10% or less understand what they're watching and so you've got to feed the other 90% their dose of bullshit to maintain or generate interest.

    The whole QB thing became more of an issue as the fullback position went away.
     
  2. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    IMO all these commercials are ruining the presentation of the game, last night It seemed like there was a commercial after every play, God play football!
     
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    I think this is the strongest part of the "status quo isn't necessarily best" position.

    The NFL does take forever to adjust to better tactics that seem intuitively wrong. The perfect example is how teams used to almost always take the ball when they won the coin-flip and now most teams kick it, which is the better option given the competitive dynamics in play.

    Going for it on 4th and short is still the least used good play around. Coaches are just too afraid that the 30% of the time it doesn't work will cost them games when in fact the 70% of the time they convert will win them games instead and the 30% won't cost them as much anyway. On 5th down they either still have the ball, which is all win or they've given up the ball either way and field position is the only cost, a factor that is much less important than who actually has possession of the football.
     
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  4. BrowningNagle

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    couldn't agree more strongly. field position is so overrated! overrated from the aspect that having control of the football is vastly more important. its unbelievable to me. no matter how you slice it- "kicking" involves giving away the ball to the other team in one way or another... in a sport where you can only score if you have the football, and you can only win if you score more! yet, somehow there's this outdated narrative that kicking good and safe?

    I get especially furious when teams decide to punt on 4th and short on the opponents' side of midfield. The "too long for field goal / too short for punt" area. especially late in games oh my god I blow a gasket. Like seriously? we are talking 20 yards in field position VS. ENDING THE GAME

    The NFL is just craving a "revolution" of sorts from that kind of thinking. That I think would make it more fun- if an innovative, ballsy coach that understood stuff like that and played the odds. Went for it on 4th down because it made sense, went for 2pts more, went for onside kicks more, etc. Belichick and Chip Kelly are about the smartest thinkers in that regard. but even they are limited.

    Another though is Ron Rivera in Carolina. I remember week 2 of 2013 they were up 20-17 under 2 mins left in Buffalo. 4th and 1 at the Buffalo 25 yard line. Instead of going for it in an effort to end the game right then. They very conservatively kicked the 39yrd field goal, only to go up 23-17 and give the ball to Buffalo. They lost 24-23 on a last second E.J. Manuel TD pass to go 0-2..

    Afterwards, when asked about the decision to kick the field goal Rivera said "never again." and by god he was serious as since then Carolina always goes for it on 4th down and reasonable from the opponents side of the field. He's also taken an interest in playing the odds on things like that. (Rivera had a 13-21 record as HC prior to that game/decision btw.. 19-10-1 with 2 division titles in 2 years afterwards)

    these teams need to understand "risk management" differently. they are not understanding the "management" part of that. that doesn't mean take no risks- it means properly managing your risks for a higher reward.
     
  5. JStokes

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    DraftKings.com. DraftKings.com. DraftKings.com.

    FanDuelFanDuelFanDuelFanDuel.

    And that douche on the Heineken commercials "Heineken is literally putting its money where it's mouth is. No it's not, I literally wouldn't do that".

    Wasn't funny the first time I saw it, certainly not the 10,000th time I saw it.

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  6. BrowningNagle

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    fan duel shit was annoying.
    I laughed last night at the subway commercials myself. no longer using the fat pervert to endorse their sandwiches they are trying the "wholesome" "clean" "respectable" marketing ploy. Like seriously Subway?- you funded a pedophiliac and his buddies for 20 years simply because he got LESS fat eating your shitty sandwiches. There is nothing respectable or wholesome or otherwise enduring about your company
     
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  7. JStokes

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    Funny thing about the FanDuel (or is it DraftKings) commercial about what it feels like to win $1 million.

    The commercials a month ago had the two douches, both obvious Brady fans because they were wearing the blue and the red 12 Pats jerseys.

    If you watch the commercial now, the numbers are digitally removed.

    Brady has spent a lot of time with lawyers recently.

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    ... Did you just call NPH a douche? I am offended!
     
  9. JStokes

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    Dooshy Howzer.

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    I hope we gamble more on 4th and short in the oppositions half especially with how Ivory is looking this year. If we fail then we've at least got a reasonable chance of pinning them in their own half or having Cro show us his pick skills.
     
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    Yes (now i see what Jstokes was referring to. Just seen this thread lol).
     
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    "I think the NFL is 10 years away from an implosion," Cuban said Sunday evening when his pregame conversation with reporters, which covered a broad range of topics, swayed toward football. "I'm just telling you: Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. And they're getting hoggy.

    "Just watch. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. When you try to take it too far, people turn the other way. I'm just telling you, when you've got a good thing and you get greedy, it always, always, always, always, always turns on you. That's rule No. 1 of business."
    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...cuban-says-greedy-nfl-10-years-away-implosion
     
  14. rohirrim665

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    I also noticed this, was wondering what the meaning was.
     
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    I'm sure the NFL or the NFLPA or Brady himself threatened to sue so instead of wasting legal dollars they just digitally removed it.

    Pretty petty if you ask me.

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    LOL'd @ the comments.
     
  17. JStokes

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    Hahahaaaa.

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