Tom Brady suspended for four games Overturned!

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  1. EmbraceTheHate

    EmbraceTheHate Active Member

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    You realize that quote is from the Wells Report/NFL, right?
     
  2. Burning Elvii

    Burning Elvii Well-Known Member

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    Krafts AE group didn't do the controlled time tests that the Exponent group conducted. I'd say after reading both of those reports, the attempt at Kraft to throw smoke was refuted in the Berman hearings.

    why didn't Berman let the NFL be? Money talks and Bullshit walks.
     
  3. rammagen

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    I have nothing to say other then he made a mockery of the sport by cheating and then lying. The choice made by the judge is both understandable and comedic at the same time. This is like killing some one and then arguing that you were not informed you were going to be punished so I should be left off
     
  4. SteveGrogan

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    yep
     
  5. Diabolical_Jet_Fan

    Diabolical_Jet_Fan Well-Known Member

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  6. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is.

    Berman basically threw out existing arbitration law, which dictates that the courts are supposed to back the arbitrator except under the most egregious circumstances (because workplace rules are not the proper use of the courts...)

    in justifying this, he claimed Brady had no a priori expectation of suspension for his wrong doing.

    Bullshit,plain and simple.
     
  7. Hobbes3259

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    I'm not going to kill you Frank...


    Fredo, Choot this piece of Chit.
     
  8. benhamean

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    So much sad...
    So much dumb...
    Your bitter denial is quite entertaining, though :) .
     
  9. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    You just described your entire posting history in your first 6 words.
     
  10. benhamean

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    What be NFL did WAS egregious-
    Tried to suspend a dude for-
    Something that they had no proof of,
    That had no precedent,
    That even if proved was punishable by a 5k fine,
    That was upheld by an appeal lacking in numerous legal ways...
    All the BS was the NFL's.
     
  11. Hobbes3259

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    There was Precedent,.

    Cheating, or the appearance of possibility of cheating is covered under the gambling issue.

    Look, I don't care that you are seriously mentally deficient...at least accept reality.
     
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    So you think the judge's decision won't get overturned because of disputed facts from the investigation?

    Did you get an F in your law class at Dawchesta Community Cawlege?

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  13. Burning Elvii

    Burning Elvii Well-Known Member

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  14. benhamean

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    So much bluster by those proven 100% wrong- hilarious! Haha!
     
  15. Burning Elvii

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    Here's another point that the NFL acted within their collectively bargained right that Berman wrote in his brief but seemed to ignore

    Page 13. Where they said NFL wouldn't allow Brady to discover notes from Pash and wells.

    The CBA stated they had a time frame up to 3 days prior to an arb hearing to ask for documents and discovery . Kessler missed his deadline. Goodell testified they missed their chance. Goodell said there was a tightly perscribed process for this under article 46 with no wiggle room here.

    How does a federal judge overstep and totally go against this. So on grounds of the 3 points Berman said Brady won on, 2 of them favored NFL

    Who had industrial justice going on?
     
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  16. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    I think it may be time to invoke the mercy rule boss.
     
  17. Burning Elvii

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    One more thing Brady's predicament and punishment had no precedent and past punishment and this was the case of precedent on choosing 4 games. Brady's player contract states this case for suspension and notice
     
  18. pclfan

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    Since when does a Commissioner have to have a precedent to give a 4 game suspension. Or if someone is suspected of breaking the rules tell them in advance what the penalty will be. Doesn't the Commish set the precedent by giving out the 4 games. Esp when it's in the agreement with the NFL players. And plus the fact probably in the contract. And in addition to that NFL reps meet with players before the season to discuss all of this. So there was plenty of warning to Brady that if you break rules there will be punishment including suspension. So even if the league goes to an arbiter system who's to say players disciplined can't still sue the league even if they agree not to.
     
  19. benhamean

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    Since forever?
     
  20. 40yrpatsfan

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    To recap:
    - the Wells report admits they don't even know if there was any tampering by anybody
    - the Wells report overrules Walt Anderson's recollection about which gauge he used because they couldn't prosecute Brady using those readings
    - the Wells report omits all 14 hours of testimony by the 2 balls boys because it didn't contain anything damaging to the Patriots
    - the Wells report was co-authored by Pash, an NFL executive, while Goodell & Wells repeatedly claim that Wells is independent
    - Goodell denies Brady's attorneys the ability to question Pash
    - Goodell denies Brady's attorneys access to any of the interview notes that were the basis of the Wells report
    - Goodell's arbitration summary is full of lies and distortions when compared to the actual testimony that eventually got released
    - Goodell is disemboweled by a senior federal judge

    Does that about sum it up?

    edit - how could I forget:
    - Goodell, confident in his strong position, appeals the case
     
    #3140 40yrpatsfan, Sep 5, 2015
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