Brady suspension overturned: What does this mean for the Jets?

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  1. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure the only people who ever proved anyone innocent were the Priestesses of Vesta....and there were some serious downsides to having that proven. Serious.
     
  2. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    This is just another blow to the NFL. Forget the Jets.
     
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  3. Julio3

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    This is why so many fans think Brady is guilty: they don't understand anything.
    First of all, "weight" has nothing to do with it, it's pressure, measured in pounds per square inch, (not "pounds", which is weight).
    Second, if Brady likes the footballs at 12.5 psi which is legal, and Luck likes them at 13 psi, when the weather cools, the Pats
    footballs will still be at a lower pressure than the Colts footballs.
    Third, none of the pressure gauges used by anyone, refs or ballboys, are accurate, so there will be some spread in the measurements.
    You said "And has never deflated a ball to the weight it was in that game", but that's not knowable, because the league
    never paid attention to ball pressures until now. In fact, it gave qb's the latitude to have the pressure they want within limits.
    Julio
     
  4. strngplyr

    strngplyr Well-Known Member

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    He did question the evidence on multiple cases though and none was ever produced.

    What will be very interesting is that the court has ordered the NFLs sealed documents for this case to be unsealed.
     
  5. BigJenks

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    Im glad he is cleared. We would never be given credit if we do win the division or get into the playoffs if Brady was suspended.
     
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  6. GordonGecko

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    Blow to the NFL? Just another bolt of free publicity. The only thing that will really hurt the NFL is if/when most hits are outlawed because of concussions and there's no more kids coming up the ranks because their parents won't let them play.

    Other than that, I expect record viewership this year. Nobody in the general public cares about any of these soap operas except to have something to talk about
     
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  7. BleedGreen89

    BleedGreen89 Well-Known Member

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    Bad for the Jets, steal for my fantasy team
     
  8. King Koopa

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    Atleast Sheldon won't get any more games

    NFL never informed him that driving 141 MPH in a Bentley with marijuana and a kid in the back could constitute a suspension
     
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  9. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    Real shocker. Nfl loses in court. Is anyone really shocked?

    Bring on the season.
     
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  10. DRC™

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    Good for them

    This whole thing was stupid. He had extra air in some footballs. Boo fuckin hoo. So what? Big deal

    If I'm them I'm going to court trying to get my draft pick back lol

    This doesn't affect the Jets in my eyes in anyway. They were going to face him anyway in both games. It would only matter if you're one of those people who thought it was going to help the Jets win the division even though Fitzpatrick is the QB
     
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  11. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    He had less air in some footballs just saying
     
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  12. LAJet

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    It means zero, nada, no issue whatsoever for the Jets....but a huge black eye for Almighty God Godell and the NFL dictatorship.
     
  13. SienaSaints

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    This does not prove that Brady was innocent. This proves that the NFL put together a poor case in handling this shit to begin with.

    Way I see it. According to Mike Francessa the most complaints at the competition committee yearly are against the Patriots. That does not get lost on the owners.

    NFL gets word from Ravens or Colts that Patriots have been using under inflated footballs. NFL warns the referees that the Patriots may be using under inflated balls.

    Ball bag disappears and the ref crew gets pissed that they have caught Patriots in the act of "cheating". There are no procedures in place allowing lawyer to poke hole in the procedures used to measure the footballs.

    Other owners catch news of the story. Aware of other cheating allegations against the Patriots and pissed at the Spygate handling tell Goodell to investigate.

    NFL puts together a poor investigation on an equipment violation.

    And we are off.

    Doesn't mean that the Patriots aren't cheaters. Means that the NFL put together a poor case, and that case was overturned by a judge.
     
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  14. pclfan

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    Goodell reminds me of our asshole president. Just does whatever the hell he feels like and everyone else can go screw
     
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  16. Don

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    I was thinking that exact same thing which is why I think the NFL wins on appeal, I'm sure they didn't tell Peterson he would be suspended for using a switch on his kid either, that's why they have the catch all Personal Conduct Rule.
     
  17. felker

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    It is true Brady was not proven innocent. However proving someone to be innocent is never part of a trial. What you have to show is that the person involved is guilty.

    During the testimony we had this: "Berman kept grilling Nash until the lawyer admitted, finally, that the league had no direct evidence “for that specific game” that there was any plot by anyone on the Patriots to deflate air from footballs."
     
  18. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Less pressure still affects the weight of the ball. Brady isnt a dummy. He knew what was happening. And he lied about that.

    If the Pats had their balls had a lower PSI that isnt the issue. The PSI was below the league limit. IDC how bad the weather was it would never affect it to that length.
     
  19. BleedGreen89

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    we really needed two fucking threads on this?
     
  20. pclfan

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    How can you get direct evidence anyways. Unless you have a video record of the entire event and that's almost impossible. Even testimony under oath can be questioned. They had a ton of circumstantial evidence. But the NFL again miscalculated.
     

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