I never saw the benefit of having the most important player on your offense out in open field. If they need to scramble, and are good at it, that's great, but just having them out there because they can seems absurd.
Sorry, but you guys are crazy. ... How soon we forget this is a once in a decade type prospect, entering just his 4th season, with a career QBR of 90.6! http://www.nfl.com/player/robertgriffiniii/2533033/careerstats He might just need a change of scenery at this point, and he's certainly worth at least a 3rd rounder to find out if he can re-capture his rookie year magic (or if his knee is fully recovered). We're talking about the most important position on the team, and a potential franchise player! ...this is the ultimate "what have you done for me lately" fan base, that can't seem to look past its nose. Remember when Sean Payton took over the Saints, and traded for San Diego "bust" Drew Brees? He would have gotten killed by Jets fans for that!
Buffalo may be a candidate. I haven't followed them close but I know they're the ONLY team in the league who has still NOT named a starting QB. They're still 'evaluating' 3 b-league guys who have not stood out in camp. Maybe Buffalo would see Bob as an upgrade?
If we were a small market team that the media woulda destroy i wouldn't mind, but we're the complete opposite and these fools will eat suRG3y alive.
I was going to reply to him but he isn't worth it, a "once in a decade type prospect" who had Luck drafted in the same draft as him and the QB who beat him out for the starting spot drafted in the 4th round that year, not to mention a Super Bowl winning QB in the 3rd round and 2 other QBs I would probably take before him. That was just that year, not the decade. So yeah, maybe a "once in a decade type prospect if we don't count starting QBs". Edit: I might be stretching a little but at least 3 QBs there I would take before him.
I don't think RG3 was all that special coming out of the draft in the first place. Cam Newton IMO was a superior prospect due to his physique, and arm strength. Even so I don't consider him a once in a decade prospect. I am not all that sure about Kirk Cousins, but Russel Wilson was definitely IMO a better player.
Yes. The talent is to good for a team like the Jets to not take a chance on him. I don't think i'd give up a second but I probably could be talked into giving up a third.
Cam Newton was a LeBron-like physical talent with off the field issues holding him back. He was a much better prospect than RG III for the NFL because his huge frame was going to give him good sight lines in the pocket and his ability to move with the ball was going to create containment problems for the defense. RG III was a good prospect coming out but not a great one. The Redskins got caught up in the hype about Luck and wound up making a big move up to take RG III as the consolation prize, which was a disaster for the franchise in the end. If RG III is going to be successful in the NFL at this point it will be because he's figured out how to run when he needs to without getting hit much in the process. He'll also need to cut the sacks down because he's not going to hold up under continuous pounding. I'd definitely take a good long look at him if I was the Jets. They'd have to make a couple of commitments before they acquired him though. One is they'd have to make a commitment to Chan Gailey too. No point in bringing RG III in and then changing OC's in a year or two. You want RG III in a spread and Gailey is the spread guy in house. Two is they'd have to resolve the Geno Smith issue in the locker room somehow before they brought RG III in. Both of them in the same locker room has circus written all over it.
I would take him, and like Bradway mentioned he would fit in Chan's offense. That said, I wouldn't want to touch his current contract.
That's the kicker...that contract. No ones trading a 3rd Ed pick AND assuming that $16 mill deal. Would I do it for a late (6-7) rd pick? Possibly, especially if I could re-do the contract at trade time to spread the hit over more yes and at the worst I have my backup QB for the next 4 yrs.
Here is my offer to the Redskins: Geno Smith for RGIII Not good enough? OK, OK I will throw in Brian Winters and a conditional 2018 7th round pick.
That's the kind of offer that makes sense. Although I don't think you need to throw in the draft pick. The Jets would have to have a plan to work around the $16M injury guarantee next year if they made that kind of move because they might not want to put RG III onto the field this year depending on how things went with Fitzpatrick and the offense early on.
There is no possible plan around the 16M hit. Whether he is in Washington or somewhere else he will get cut next year and then sign with exactly who he wants to sign with and not where Snyder decides he wants to ship him off to.
Contracts can be re-done at trade time with the players assent....of course, he isn't going to take less than he's currently owed....but you could possibly kick him some small amount of money for him to extend his deal beyond next year to spread the cap hit out over a longer time period and attach some escalators for additional $ if he's the starter for a certain period of time. It can be done.
But I mostly agree with Don...if he's just cut, he can fabricate his own deal with whomever he wants, and some small additional amount of money probably won't make him alter his present deal and lose control of his ultimate landing place. But, I'd ask.
