Republican Nomination Thread

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  1. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    What's a mantra?
    A theme song, that kind of means a song that describes them doesn't it?
    Dumbass

    Now you will claim you are just not replying to me but the truth is you have been exposed for the fool you are and are too embarrassed to reply.
     
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  2. deathstar

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    Donald's holding up.

    When do the first drops out occurred? Too soon for that?
     
  3. 74

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    It's a law that forces people to buy a private product with escalating penalties if they don't. It's a giant tax designed to drastically increase the amount of people dependent on government. It's Obamunism. It exacerbates the problems we have in healthcare which is everyone trying to fuck each other over to get the most money out of it that they can. Don't take my word for it, take Forbes http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatthews/2012/07/05/seven-things-still-wrong-with-obamacare/
     
  4. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I can't believe this guy hasn't gone away yet. Fuck.
     
  5. Big Blocker

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    The private involvement, here insurance companies, in the OCA was a republican idea. I think single payer would have been much more efficient, but calling the role of private companies in it some form of socialism is ridiculous and not based on fact.

    And you are talking about health insurance. Everyone should have health insurance. So, if the alternative is to be "dependent" on a private insuracne carrier who can kick you off whenever they feel like it, or have no insurance at all, why is that better than having the government be involved?

    This ideology that private markets are always good and government is always bad is equivalent to a form of religious belief, not borne out by reality.
     
  6. deathstar

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    His numbers are definitely holding in some polls and still increasing in others (32% in Reuters).

    If I was a GOP voter, the GOP Congress has been 100% useless for conservative causes... Have they done anything?

    GOP voters seem to be sick of GOP politicians and Donald represents the anti politician...
     
  7. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    the base is sick of their own party's shenanigans so instead of jumping ship to the other party or even just coming towards the middle, they go for an even wackier POS candidate. yep. that's today's republican party.
     
  8. pclfan

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    Trump can't keep the promises he's been making. Even with Executive orders which they say they're against. Unless he wants to become King Donald. The only thing he's got going for him presently is the polls. But you'd think the GOP might pay attention to this and change their modus operandi. But it doesn't sound like it. They're in bed with the billionaires and everyone knows it. Just ask Bernie and Trump.
     
  9. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    There are much better candidates if that's your stance though (IMO). Carson, Fiorina, even Paul.

    I think maybe we dealing with low information voters or people who usually don't vote?
     
  10. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Or the regular viewing audience of Celebrity Apprentice, which is probably the same group anyway.
     
  11. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    What a sucker! That's not the word of Forbes, that's an opinion piece by one writer who happened to get it printed in Forbes. He works for a think tank founded by Dick Armey.
     
  12. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Quick reality check here for everybody:

    If the general election is between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump who do you vote for?

    I really don't like Hillary Clinton at all and it would be a no-brainer anyway.
     
  13. 74

    74 Well-Known Member

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    Did you just call me a sucker? What was that you posted about name calling?
    You hypocrite. You haven't posted anything in the thread except worthless little snips at people. I guess that's all you can muster during the shorts gasps where you're not throating the govts sack so here's a secret, I believe name calling boosts my argument. Now you don't have to answer me.
     
  14. Big Blocker

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    Yep, doubling down on what they wish the world was like rather than address what it really is.

    I read an article in the Times on Kasich today. WHile like all the rest in the GOP he has retrograde views on social issues, and has done things like privatize prisons that shows an adherence to free market fundamentalism, and talked about allowing Wall Street to manage funds otherwise would go to Social Security, he at least has seemed stylistically to avoid the bullying style so prevalent among others, especially Trump. But like any analysis of their candidates the issue of what GOP primary voters want came up, and it may be an issue for Kasich. Not only in terms of style, either. He worked for Lehman Brothers.

    Your core GOP voter, angry white males tending to be working class, is not only unhappy with the GOP establishment. To a rather unique extent they are also unhappy with Wall Street. But if you hate government and do not trust Wall Street, what is the practical way forward? In that respect the notion of countervailing power is lost on those people.

    How would Trump give practical expression to those voters? How would he both limit government and clip Wall Street's wings?

    Arguably he's not really talking about doing either. For example how can this wall be built without goverment involvement? And other than saying he is so rich he doesn't need money from corporate lobbyists, what else is he saying he would do about excessive power on Wall Street?

    Yet despite these policy issues, he continues to get alot of support (to be clear I am aware he does garner female support as well, but of course they are subject to the same disjunct between what they say they dont' like and what Trump's rather skeletal policy proposals are).

    The whole trend I think is rather worrisome, this business of what you describe of going ever more wacky.
     
  15. Ralebird

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    Speak to the issue. You said this was the word of Forbes. It wasn't. You may not be a sucker, but you got suckered into believing the words of a Conservative think tank were the independent words of Forbes magazine. You were wrong. The essay is as good as its source. Worthless partisan pap!
     
  16. 74

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    who gives a shit, It was published by Forbes. If there's something he said wrong then why don't you argue that, instead of harping on irrelevant semantic bullshit. you don't like the author boohoo cry me a river. All you can do is try to deflect from the issue that Obamacare is a pile of un-American crap designed not to deliver efficient care to citizens but to give the govt more power. but why are you even answering me? I also said you throat govt sack does that not qualify as an insult? I'm at work, have a nice day, hypocrite.
     
  17. Ralebird

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    Do you really not understand the difference in saying it is the work of Forbes or it just was published there? Are you the one who is trying to fool people?

    There is nothing about the ACA that is any more un-American than Medicare, it simply focuses on a different part of the population. The biggest problem with it is that all our fine politicians beholden to the financial and insurance sectors blocked the intelligent single payer blueprint to keep their buddies' hands in the cookie jar.

    Cry your own fucking river in your middle school bathroom. Some day you may graduate if you open your mind.
     
  18. 74

    74 Well-Known Member

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    Aw there goes mr. hypocrite spewing the insults now. Good try but Medicare which is also a mess is a subsidy program, Obamacare is a federal statute. feel free to learn the implications.
     
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  19. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Medicare and the Affordable Care Act are both federal programs established by law - as are virtually every single program existing within the government. Did you really not know this? You need to find a much better source for your information or, at least, to stop exposing your ignorance.
     
  20. 74

    74 Well-Known Member

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    No shit. Not all laws are the same. Try to follow.
     
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